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Re: Review: Washington @ Edmonton (Game #11) [message #745613 is a reply to message #745611 ]	Fri, 25 October 2019 08:44

RDOilerfan
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The Oilers big boys looked pretty sleepy again for a good chunk of that game. I don't know what was said in the dressing room in the second intermission but holy cow, they came out firing in the 3rd. It was all Holtby could to keep them the Caps in it as he made A LOT of great saves in the 3rd plus the post bailed him out a few times but they just kept coming. Leon and McDavid played a lot last night especially in the 3rd but I can't blame the coach, those 2 were going big time and you have to ride that when they are like that.

Ethan Bear!! He lead the defense in ice time last night and he was GOOD and he was good against a really good team. My expectation for him before the season was he could maybe be a 3rd pairing guy who had a PP dimension. I get it's still early but he's literally found money for the Oilers. It makes me excited for other guys. I don't count Bouchard because he is highly touted and looks to be legit. But what can a guy like Lagesson be like? Everyone had Lagesson ahead of Bear. When will they play him over Manning? Manning played 9:51 last night.

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Re: Review: Washington @ Edmonton (Game #11) [message #745641 is a reply to message #745578 ]	Fri, 25 October 2019 11:42

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As unproductive the bottom 6 + Chaisson have been, at least they aren't leaking goals as much as years past, and some of them can be effective on the PK .. .. glass half full boys ! :)

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Re: Review: Washington @ Edmonton (Game #11) [message #745665 is a reply to message #745578 ]	Fri, 25 October 2019 14:29

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Oilers are 5th in PK, 9th in goals against, and 1st in points. Thats all Tippett cares about.

I'm sure he's just fine with the bottom 6 not producing, if they can hold the 18 or so minutes they are forced to play. Even better that they are given PK duty. Just let the big boys score.

Gagner hasn't been here because he doesn't fit that role. Chiasson and Jurco can better move between the top and bottom 6.

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Re: Review: Washington @ Edmonton (Game #11) [message #745667 is a reply to message #745665 ]	Fri, 25 October 2019 14:59

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NetBOG wrote on Fri, 25 October 2019 14:29

The problem is that the 4th line aren't just incapable of scoring, they also can't hold opponents off the scoreboard 5-on-5. They are liabilities.

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Re: Review: Washington @ Edmonton (Game #11) [message #745668 is a reply to message #745667 ]	Fri, 25 October 2019 15:54

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Ragnarok73 wrote on Fri, 25 October 2019 14:59

NetBOG wrote on Fri, 25 October 2019 14:29

The problem is that the 4th line aren't just incapable of scoring, they also can't hold opponents off the scoreboard 5-on-5. They are liabilities.

There's nothing to worry about. The oilers had the same issue last year but McDavid, Draisatl and Nuge all had careers years and everything ended up fine.

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Re: Review: Washington @ Edmonton (Game #11) [message #745669 is a reply to message #745668 ]	Fri, 25 October 2019 16:47

NetBOG
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CrudeRemarks wrote on Fri, 25 October 2019 15:54

Ragnarok73 wrote on Fri, 25 October 2019 14:59

NetBOG wrote on Fri, 25 October 2019 14:29

The problem is that the 4th line aren't just incapable of scoring, they also can't hold opponents off the scoreboard 5-on-5. They are liabilities.

There's nothing to worry about. The oilers had the same issue last year but McDavid, Draisatl and Nuge all had careers years and everything ended up fine.

Oilers were 2.79 GF and 3.30 GA last season.
They are 3.09 GF and 2.36 GA this season so far (weaker schedule, small sample size).

It's a better team. Other numbers are great too. PP is #2, PK is #5. Tippett implemented a new system that is working, and in that system the lower guys are just tasked with holding until the big boys are rested.

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Re: Review: Washington @ Edmonton (Game #11) [message #745670 is a reply to message #745669 ]	Fri, 25 October 2019 16:58

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That sure sounds a lot like last year's system

Clean house or bust

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Re: Review: Washington @ Edmonton (Game #11) [message #745671 is a reply to message #745669 ]	Fri, 25 October 2019 17:56

Adam
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NetBOG wrote on Fri, 25 October 2019 16:47

CrudeRemarks wrote on Fri, 25 October 2019 15:54

Ragnarok73 wrote on Fri, 25 October 2019 14:59

NetBOG wrote on Fri, 25 October 2019 14:29

The problem is that the 4th line aren't just incapable of scoring, they also can't hold opponents off the scoreboard 5-on-5. They are liabilities.

There's nothing to worry about. The oilers had the same issue last year but McDavid, Draisatl and Nuge all had careers years and everything ended up fine.

How many teams do you think have only six forwards who've scored so far this year?

How many teams do you think have their bottom six forwards on pace for 8 goals on the season?

The answer? One. The Red Wings depth has been equally ineffective, so they nicely demonstrate what it would look like if we were missing one of our top guys - they're in 29th place as of today.

A quick look shows that most teams have had goals from 9-11 forwards this far in to the season.

Someone used McKinnon and Rantanen as a comparable, but the Avalanche have 11 forward goal scorers to and NINE goals from guys outside the top six scorers so far.

Last season the Oilers set a modern day record for lack of production by their depth, and they're on pace to score less than 20% of that total at the moment.

McDavid is on pace for 150 points right now. Draisaitl is on pace for 140 points. The last time anyone cracked 140 was 1995-96 when Lemieux and Jagr cleared that hurdle, so if the plan is to have the bottom six simply check the other team to a standstill, it's an awful lot to hope that the top end guys can continue clicking at this rate.

I would love to see them score that much, but it would make everyone's life a lot easier if the third and fourth line chipped in at least a moderate amount of goals.

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Re: Review: Washington @ Edmonton (Game #11) [message #745672 is a reply to message #745671 ]	Fri, 25 October 2019 18:07

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Adam wrote on Fri, 25 October 2019 17:56

NetBOG wrote on Fri, 25 October 2019 16:47

CrudeRemarks wrote on Fri, 25 October 2019 15:54

Ragnarok73 wrote on Fri, 25 October 2019 14:59

NetBOG wrote on Fri, 25 October 2019 14:29

The problem is that the 4th line aren't just incapable of scoring, they also can't hold opponents off the scoreboard 5-on-5. They are liabilities.

There's nothing to worry about. The oilers had the same issue last year but McDavid, Draisatl and Nuge all had careers years and everything ended up fine.

I don't get the sense either that Tippett is telling the 3rd/4th line guys to just bottle up. They are trying to rush pucks, D are still activating to try to keep cycles alive. It's just so rarely going to the net. We're probably already in that zone now where our depth guys are feeling like a bunch of embarrassing a-holes for accomplishing nothing 5v5. Really hope something does go in soon.

On the topic of the bottom 6. Archibald is out for a month with a broken foot. Might be time to call up one of the skilled laddies.

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