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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Anaheim (Game #42) [message #726733 is a reply to message #726723 ]
Mon, 07 January 2019 10:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rocksteady wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 10:01

Yeah Talbot was the difference last night, played like a new man despite that performance in relief of Koskinen.

One play doesn't make me forget Lucic and his lack of team support. I think I'm permanently on the dislike the chump camp, I do not support him and to heck with his supporting role. He's a boat anchor of a contract and I would still sit the guy in the press box. Manning is better! (that could be the anger talking)

What a difference Russell makes because he stabilized the back end tire fire defense. I liked Nurse's engagement on Saturday and yesterday, the cross on Henrique is was lore is made out of. More of that please.

One thing is for sure, this team ain't making the playoffs.


To be fair, Lucic did have a response in the Kings game - it was just really late and really lame. We haven't actually seen Lucic seek out trouble much in his time with the Oilers. That first game against the Flames, and then since then, if he's fought it's usually because some fourth liner asked him nicely.

The slash on Leipsic not only is not at all a deterrent, it's also not even retribution. He just randomly gave a minor tap to some guy not involved in the other dirty plays. If he'd at least slashed Carter or Doughty it would have been better. It is disturbing to have the propaganda voice of the Oilers suggest he didn't go after anyone of consequence because of his connections to those guys.

It's not just Lucic though - the Carter stuff was right in front of the bench. Everyone would have seen it. We were already getting fed our lunch in that game, so why doesn't someone - Nurse, Manning, Kassian, anyone - give him a facewash or a crosscheck on his next shift? It's not like surrendering a powerplay was going to be that big an issue...that game was lost early. At least you'd show you're not going to take that.

Yesterday, to his credit, Lucic played a big role in the fourth goal yesterday, if you aren't too critical of his blindly throwing the puck to the front of the net after forcing the turnover. Because of the fact he just gave the puck back, he didn't get an assist on the play, but the goal still doesn't likely happen without his forecheck there.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Anaheim (Game #42) [message #726744 is a reply to message #726733 ]
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Adam wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 10:27

To be fair, Lucic did have a response in the Kings game - it was just really late and really lame. We haven't actually seen Lucic seek out trouble much in his time with the Oilers. That first game against the Flames, and then since then, if he's fought it's usually because some fourth liner asked him nicely.

The slash on Leipsic not only is not at all a deterrent, it's also not even retribution. He just randomly gave a minor tap to some guy not involved in the other dirty plays. If he'd at least slashed Carter or Doughty it would have been better. It is disturbing to have the propaganda voice of the Oilers suggest he didn't go after anyone of consequence because of his connections to those guys.

It's not just Lucic though - the Carter stuff was right in front of the bench. Everyone would have seen it. We were already getting fed our lunch in that game, so why doesn't someone - Nurse, Manning, Kassian, anyone - give him a facewash or a crosscheck on his next shift? It's not like surrendering a powerplay was going to be that big an issue...that game was lost early. At least you'd show you're not going to take that.

Yesterday, to his credit, Lucic played a big role in the fourth goal yesterday, if you aren't too critical of his blindly throwing the puck to the front of the net after forcing the turnover. Because of the fact he just gave the puck back, he didn't get an assist on the play, but the goal still doesn't likely happen without his forecheck there.


You are being pretty generous to Lucic and I appreciate that maybe I'm focusing just a little more on him than the rest of the team. You're right though the other players could have stepped up and given a "pay the piper" to the Kings in a lost game, none did.

I think it was how Lucic played that game on Saturday, and I saw much of it last night his outright refusal to interject and do his job, I can't let go of it. His offense is horrible with arrant passes going here and there. I just can't get his lame attempt on Leipsic out of my head, just his foolish attempt to start something with a little guy who really wasn't doing anything of impact on the game. It's plain see what he was really thinking here, "I got to do something so I will do this.."

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Anaheim (Game #42) [message #726746 is a reply to message #726744 ]
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Rocksteady wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 11:29

Adam wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 10:27

To be fair, Lucic did have a response in the Kings game - it was just really late and really lame. We haven't actually seen Lucic seek out trouble much in his time with the Oilers. That first game against the Flames, and then since then, if he's fought it's usually because some fourth liner asked him nicely.

The slash on Leipsic not only is not at all a deterrent, it's also not even retribution. He just randomly gave a minor tap to some guy not involved in the other dirty plays. If he'd at least slashed Carter or Doughty it would have been better. It is disturbing to have the propaganda voice of the Oilers suggest he didn't go after anyone of consequence because of his connections to those guys.

It's not just Lucic though - the Carter stuff was right in front of the bench. Everyone would have seen it. We were already getting fed our lunch in that game, so why doesn't someone - Nurse, Manning, Kassian, anyone - give him a facewash or a crosscheck on his next shift? It's not like surrendering a powerplay was going to be that big an issue...that game was lost early. At least you'd show you're not going to take that.

Yesterday, to his credit, Lucic played a big role in the fourth goal yesterday, if you aren't too critical of his blindly throwing the puck to the front of the net after forcing the turnover. Because of the fact he just gave the puck back, he didn't get an assist on the play, but the goal still doesn't likely happen without his forecheck there.


You are being pretty generous to Lucic and I appreciate that maybe I'm focusing just a little more on him than the rest of the team. You're right though the other players could have stepped up and given a "pay the piper" to the Kings in a lost game, none did.

I think it was how Lucic played that game on Saturday, and I saw much of it last night his outright refusal to interject and do his job, I can't let go of it. His offense is horrible with arrant passes going here and there. I just can't get his lame attempt on Leipsic out of my head, just his foolish attempt to start something with a little guy who really wasn't doing anything of impact on the game. It's plain see what he was really thinking here, "I got to do something so I will do this.."





When it comes to Lucic, I am past the point of expecting any offense from him. If you get some from him, bonus but as crappy as it is given what he makes, you can't expect much. At this point, all I want from him is to do something. He's a bottom 6 guy so go out there and create havoc. Bang bodies, forecheck, get in peoples faces, challenge them to fights. Be a menace. His game sucked in LA but given what he did with Leipsic, it was too little too late but at the same time, I don't mind that. The problem I had was when it happened. That should have happened WAY earlier when there was game still left and it was blatantly obvious the Oilers were FLAT. If you can't score then do SOMETHING. What he did on the Leon goal was a great example. He didn't get a point but he was the key to that goal. There is no reason he can't do that all the time. He's never going to earn his contract, he won't even earn half of it but at least do something!!!

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Anaheim (Game #42) [message #726751 is a reply to message #726746 ]
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Every game for how long has it been now you wonder, Is this the game Lucic will score a point, even an assist never mind an actual goal. The way he plays most nights I barely consider him to be an NHL calibre player but last night he did some good things, started being physical and that seems to get him into the game more. He'll never earn that bloated contract but if he plays that way more often, at least he has some value to the team. Can you imagine playing against him when he has a full head of steam, he's like a runaway freight train! ( takes awhile to get to full speed and then can't turn very good ) He'd keep you looking over you're shoulder and distract you a bit at the very least. Is there even a way for the team to get out from under that contract? If not, no sense getting too worked up about it. Highest paid fourth line caliber player in NHL history is a record no one brags about.

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Anaheim (Game #42) [message #726752 is a reply to message #726751 ]
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Yeah no chance he can earn that contract. I hear there are Hart trophy winners making the same money.

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Anaheim (Game #42) [message #726754 is a reply to message #726751 ]
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overdue wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 12:49

Every game for how long has it been now you wonder, Is this the game Lucic will score a point, even an assist never mind an actual goal. The way he plays most nights I barely consider him to be an NHL calibre player but last night he did some good things, started being physical and that seems to get him into the game more. He'll never earn that bloated contract but if he plays that way more often, at least he has some value to the team. Can you imagine playing against him when he has a full head of steam, he's like a runaway freight train! ( takes awhile to get to full speed and then can't turn very good ) He'd keep you looking over you're shoulder and distract you a bit at the very least. Is there even a way for the team to get out from under that contract? If not, no sense getting too worked up about it. Highest paid fourth line caliber player in NHL history is a record no one brags about.


It's the NHL, where there's still an inordinate number of former hockey players allowed to make franchise-altering decisions for their team. People overvalue grit, power and big hits, and there's a few teams that are always willing to eat a contract in order to A) reach the cap floor and B) pick up an extra pick or two.

There's definitely a possibility that Lucic is tradeable, especially the day after he gets his bonus each year (July 2nd?). It may cost us something to get rid of him, and there's an chance he vetoes a move with his no-move clause, since most of the places we would be most likely able to send him are places with no chance of winning...but that's tempered somewhat with how miserable it has been for him here. I think he'd likely welcome the chance to go somewhere else now.

Again, it's something I'd like to see a competent GM deal with rather than Chiarelli though. I'm scared of how much we'd give up to get rid of him...especially once Chia decided that was the route he wanted to go. If things don't go his way, he could make a grievous error - maybe keeping half his salary while giving up a first round pick...

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Anaheim (Game #42) [message #726745 is a reply to message #726733 ]
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Adam wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 09:27

Rocksteady wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 10:01

Yeah Talbot was the difference last night, played like a new man despite that performance in relief of Koskinen.

One play doesn't make me forget Lucic and his lack of team support. I think I'm permanently on the dislike the chump camp, I do not support him and to heck with his supporting role. He's a boat anchor of a contract and I would still sit the guy in the press box. Manning is better! (that could be the anger talking)

What a difference Russell makes because he stabilized the back end tire fire defense. I liked Nurse's engagement on Saturday and yesterday, the cross on Henrique is was lore is made out of. More of that please.

One thing is for sure, this team ain't making the playoffs.


To be fair, Lucic did have a response in the Kings game - it was just really late and really lame. We haven't actually seen Lucic seek out trouble much in his time with the Oilers. That first game against the Flames, and then since then, if he's fought it's usually because some fourth liner asked him nicely.

The slash on Leipsic not only is not at all a deterrent, it's also not even retribution. He just randomly gave a minor tap to some guy not involved in the other dirty plays. If he'd at least slashed Carter or Doughty it would have been better. It is disturbing to have the propaganda voice of the Oilers suggest he didn't go after anyone of consequence because of his connections to those guys.

It's not just Lucic though - the Carter stuff was right in front of the bench. Everyone would have seen it. We were already getting fed our lunch in that game, so why doesn't someone - Nurse, Manning, Kassian, anyone - give him a facewash or a crosscheck on his next shift? It's not like surrendering a powerplay was going to be that big an issue...that game was lost early. At least you'd show you're not going to take that.

Yesterday, to his credit, Lucic played a big role in the fourth goal yesterday, if you aren't too critical of his blindly throwing the puck to the front of the net after forcing the turnover. Because of the fact he just gave the puck back, he didn't get an assist on the play, but the goal still doesn't likely happen without his forecheck there.




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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Anaheim (Game #42) [message #726727 is a reply to message #726687 ]
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Hey, our expected goals just got a huge boost. We came back from our island of suck way below every other team on the chart

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