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Here is a guy who is a talented first round pick, probably saw himself being a certain player after he was drafted, it didn't happen right away. But he has come in, accepted a certain role, goes out there and does whatever he can to have success to help the team win, doesn't get down on himself because he's probably not in the role he thought he would be in once he got drafted. He's playing with confidence playing whatever the role the team asks him to play. He's endeared himself to the team, loving life, loving being in the NHL.

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I'm absolutely loving what I'm seeing from him on the ice... and now off too. He definitely seems like the hidden gem of the season.


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nullterm wrote on Thu, 15 December 2022 15:07

I'm absolutely loving what I'm seeing from him on the ice... and now off too. He definitely seems like the hidden gem of the season.


Giving it to Jimbo and Spector. That makes him a fan favourite on and off the ice. No doubt his teammates loved it too. With the big laugh and broken English it’s hard to take his comments as mean, but I hope they stung those two bozo’s egos.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 15 December 2022 14:19

Here is a guy who is a talented first round pick, probably saw himself being a certain player after he was drafted, it didn't happen right away. But he has come in, accepted a certain role, goes out there and does whatever he can to have success to help the team win, doesn't get down on himself because he's probably not in the role he thought he would be in once he got drafted. He's playing with confidence playing whatever the role the team asks him to play. He's endeared himself to the team, loving life, loving being in the NHL.

Great to see.


And it took a second opportunity and a fresh start. Here’s hoping big Jesse and Benson get the same opportunity elsewhere, and whoever is coming back to us in those trades.



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inverno76 wrote on Thu, 15 December 2022 15:35

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 15 December 2022 14:19

Here is a guy who is a talented first round pick, probably saw himself being a certain player after he was drafted, it didn't happen right away. But he has come in, accepted a certain role, goes out there and does whatever he can to have success to help the team win, doesn't get down on himself because he's probably not in the role he thought he would be in once he got drafted. He's playing with confidence playing whatever the role the team asks him to play. He's endeared himself to the team, loving life, loving being in the NHL.

Great to see.


And it took a second opportunity and a fresh start. Here’s hoping big Jesse and Benson get the same opportunity elsewhere, and whoever is coming back to us in those trades.


Sadly for a lot of guys that don't find their footing immediately, it takes a second opinion for them to make a change. Cogliano is a perfect example. When he was drafted by the Oilers, he was a scorer in lower levels. So in his mind, he was supposed to be a scorer. The Oilers told him he would make a great 3rd liner, he wanted no part of that. Went to the Ducks, they turned him into a 3rd liner which he finally accepted that role and he's had one hell of a career. He's played over 1100 games, has a ring, made over 32 mill in career earnings. He did an interview with Gregor have he won the cup and he said, he wouldn't be in the league if he hadn't of made that change but it took moving to get him to do it.

I think JP would make one hell of a 3rd liner and have a very long NHL career making a lot of money doing that but he has to accept that role. Sadly, I do not think he will accept that role fully as an Oiler. It's going to take a move for him to do it. I think at the end of last season if he had of embraced being a 3rd liner and signed a contract paying him as a 3rd liner and came into camp seeing being a 3rd liner as a good thing, he'd be having a good season. But he saw himself as a top 6 or bust, he and his agent wanted to be a top 6 or bust, they 3rd liners contact and when the pucks didn't go in early, he got down on himself and as they continue to not go in, he gets further down on himself because he's not doing what he wants and because he's not playing well enough to stay in the top 6, he gets dropped down in the line up which drops his confidence down even further and where we are today.

If Kostin keeps doing what he is doing, doesn't price himself too high, he can carve himself a nice contract from the Oilers and play a long time as an effective bottom 6 player.

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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 15 December 2022 15:59

inverno76 wrote on Thu, 15 December 2022 15:35

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 15 December 2022 14:19

Here is a guy who is a talented first round pick, probably saw himself being a certain player after he was drafted, it didn't happen right away. But he has come in, accepted a certain role, goes out there and does whatever he can to have success to help the team win, doesn't get down on himself because he's probably not in the role he thought he would be in once he got drafted. He's playing with confidence playing whatever the role the team asks him to play. He's endeared himself to the team, loving life, loving being in the NHL.

Great to see.


And it took a second opportunity and a fresh start. Here’s hoping big Jesse and Benson get the same opportunity elsewhere, and whoever is coming back to us in those trades.


Sadly for a lot of guys that don't find their footing immediately, it takes a second opinion for them to make a change. Cogliano is a perfect example. When he was drafted by the Oilers, he was a scorer in lower levels. So in his mind, he was supposed to be a scorer. The Oilers told him he would make a great 3rd liner, he wanted no part of that. Went to the Ducks, they turned him into a 3rd liner which he finally accepted that role and he's had one hell of a career. He's played over 1100 games, has a ring, made over 32 mill in career earnings. He did an interview with Gregor have he won the cup and he said, he wouldn't be in the league if he hadn't of made that change but it took moving to get him to do it.

I think JP would make one hell of a 3rd liner and have a very long NHL career making a lot of money doing that but he has to accept that role. Sadly, I do not think he will accept that role fully as an Oiler. It's going to take a move for him to do it. I think at the end of last season if he had of embraced being a 3rd liner and signed a contract paying him as a 3rd liner and came into camp seeing being a 3rd liner as a good thing, he'd be having a good season. But he saw himself as a top 6 or bust, he and his agent wanted to be a top 6 or bust, they 3rd liners contact and when the pucks didn't go in early, he got down on himself and as they continue to not go in, he gets further down on himself because he's not doing what he wants and because he's not playing well enough to stay in the top 6, he gets dropped down in the line up which drops his confidence down even further and where we are today.

If Kostin keeps doing what he is doing, doesn't price himself too high, he can carve himself a nice contract from the Oilers and play a long time as an effective bottom 6 player.


A) Teams should never tell a player they are a third or fourth liner. They can always move up.

B) There is zero difference in the role of a third line winger and a first line winger. The goal is to score more than the opposition. The only difference really is ice time and who you end up out on the ice against.

C) Any team who says "this player could never have been that successful here" is poorly managed. If you can't explain to a player adequately that results dictate ice time and opportunity? That's on the coach, the manager and the team.

Why have the Oilers been a loser organization for two decades? Because they don't understand any of the above and they spend time getting media to promote the idea that anyone who leaves and doesn't rebound actually just sucked all along, and anyone who leaves and does bounce back clearly would never have done it here. Any mistakes they made in drafting or trades don't matter, because we wouldn't have drafted that successful player anyhow, or that player wouldn't have fit in to the Oilers system. Excuses, excuses, excuses.

The issue with Cogliano wasn't ever his attitude here. It was that the team didn't adequately manage expectations, gave him too much unwarranted too soon, and then traded him for magic beans the second we got someone else who seemed shinier (although hilariously that was Eric Belanger - which just shows how poor the Oilers are and have been at assessing talent).



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tardigrade81 wrote on Thu, 15 December 2022 16:29

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Adam wrote on Thu, 15 December 2022 16:27

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 15 December 2022 15:59

inverno76 wrote on Thu, 15 December 2022 15:35

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 15 December 2022 14:19

Here is a guy who is a talented first round pick, probably saw himself being a certain player after he was drafted, it didn't happen right away. But he has come in, accepted a certain role, goes out there and does whatever he can to have success to help the team win, doesn't get down on himself because he's probably not in the role he thought he would be in once he got drafted. He's playing with confidence playing whatever the role the team asks him to play. He's endeared himself to the team, loving life, loving being in the NHL.

Great to see.


And it took a second opportunity and a fresh start. Here’s hoping big Jesse and Benson get the same opportunity elsewhere, and whoever is coming back to us in those trades.


Sadly for a lot of guys that don't find their footing immediately, it takes a second opinion for them to make a change. Cogliano is a perfect example. When he was drafted by the Oilers, he was a scorer in lower levels. So in his mind, he was supposed to be a scorer. The Oilers told him he would make a great 3rd liner, he wanted no part of that. Went to the Ducks, they turned him into a 3rd liner which he finally accepted that role and he's had one hell of a career. He's played over 1100 games, has a ring, made over 32 mill in career earnings. He did an interview with Gregor have he won the cup and he said, he wouldn't be in the league if he hadn't of made that change but it took moving to get him to do it.

I think JP would make one hell of a 3rd liner and have a very long NHL career making a lot of money doing that but he has to accept that role. Sadly, I do not think he will accept that role fully as an Oiler. It's going to take a move for him to do it. I think at the end of last season if he had of embraced being a 3rd liner and signed a contract paying him as a 3rd liner and came into camp seeing being a 3rd liner as a good thing, he'd be having a good season. But he saw himself as a top 6 or bust, he and his agent wanted to be a top 6 or bust, they 3rd liners contact and when the pucks didn't go in early, he got down on himself and as they continue to not go in, he gets further down on himself because he's not doing what he wants and because he's not playing well enough to stay in the top 6, he gets dropped down in the line up which drops his confidence down even further and where we are today.

If Kostin keeps doing what he is doing, doesn't price himself too high, he can carve himself a nice contract from the Oilers and play a long time as an effective bottom 6 player.


A) Teams should never tell a player they are a third or fourth liner. They can always move up.

B) There is zero difference in the role of a third line winger and a first line winger. The goal is to score more than the opposition. The only difference really is ice time and who you end up out on the ice against.

C) Any team who says "this player could never have been that successful here" is poorly managed. If you can't explain to a player adequately that results dictate ice time and opportunity? That's on the coach, the manager and the team.

Why have the Oilers been a loser organization for two decades? Because they don't understand any of the above and they spend time getting media to promote the idea that anyone who leaves and doesn't rebound actually just sucked all along, and anyone who leaves and does bounce back clearly would never have done it here. Any mistakes they made in drafting or trades don't matter, because we wouldn't have drafted that successful player anyhow, or that player wouldn't have fit in to the Oilers system. Excuses, excuses, excuses.

The issue with Cogliano wasn't ever his attitude here. It was that the team didn't adequately manage expectations, gave him too much unwarranted too soon, and then traded him for magic beans the second we got someone else who seemed shinier (although hilariously that was Eric Belanger - which just shows how poor the Oilers are and have been at assessing talent).

So you are saying Cogliano is a liar then? He literally did a LIVE radio interview with Gregor that 1000's of people heard, I repeated what he said that he thought he should be playing in a certain spot and doing certain things and he wouldn't accept anything less but it's the teams fault they couldn't make a grown ass man bend to their will. OK then.

The player is wrong and Adam is right. I stand corrected once again Adam. Thank you for showing me the error of my ways once again.

[Updated on: Fri, 16 December 2022 09:46]


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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 16 December 2022 09:36


So you are saying Cogliano is a liar then? He literally did a LIVE radio interview with Gregor that 1000's of people heard, I repeated what he said that he thought he should be playing in a certain spot and doing certain things and he wouldn't accept anything less but it's the teams fault they couldn't make a grown ass man bend to their will. OK then.

The player is wrong and Adam is right. I stand corrected once again Adam. Thank you for showing me the error of my ways once again.


You are welcome.

As for players, they know what they're expected to say, and they're set up by questions from their interviewers. There's an expected way these things are always answered, and it's only notable when people go against that grain.

Some examples? Kadri had "tough love" from Dallas Eakins with the Toronto Marlies. It's unlikely it had anything to do with his future success. Eakins tried the same tricks with Yakupov and it just stripped the kid of confidence and ruined the prospect. Yet, Dallas Eakins has specifically said that he bears some responsibility for Kadri's post-Eakins success. Kadri, when asked about it, hasn't said much but what he has said was taking the path of least resistance and saying it was beneficial to him. Meanwhile, when asked years later about his experience with Pat Burns doing essentially the same thing to him as a rookie, Joe Thornton scoffed and said he didn't think he learned much sitting on his ass. He was more kind in his words after Burns' passing, but it was notable when he put lie to the trope.

There's a similar "change of scenery" trope in hockey coverage. People are often asked about why they're successful in their stops after leaving a market where they had some challenges (although, Cogliano didn't really have much actual challenges here - he had a relatively successful career as an Oiler during a time when the team just flat out sucked). The expected answer is always that the change was needed, and that they just developed more after that move. Is it true? Usually not.



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Adam wrote on Mon, 19 December 2022 10:59

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 16 December 2022 09:36


So you are saying Cogliano is a liar then? He literally did a LIVE radio interview with Gregor that 1000's of people heard, I repeated what he said that he thought he should be playing in a certain spot and doing certain things and he wouldn't accept anything less but it's the teams fault they couldn't make a grown ass man bend to their will. OK then.

The player is wrong and Adam is right. I stand corrected once again Adam. Thank you for showing me the error of my ways once again.


You are welcome.

As for players, they know what they're expected to say, and they're set up by questions from their interviewers. There's an expected way these things are always answered, and it's only notable when people go against that grain.

Some examples? Kadri had "tough love" from Dallas Eakins with the Toronto Marlies. It's unlikely it had anything to do with his future success. Eakins tried the same tricks with Yakupov and it just stripped the kid of confidence and ruined the prospect. Yet, Dallas Eakins has specifically said that he bears some responsibility for Kadri's post-Eakins success. Kadri, when asked about it, hasn't said much but what he has said was taking the path of least resistance and saying it was beneficial to him. Meanwhile, when asked years later about his experience with Pat Burns doing essentially the same thing to him as a rookie, Joe Thornton scoffed and said he didn't think he learned much sitting on his ass. He was more kind in his words after Burns' passing, but it was notable when he put lie to the trope.

There's a similar "change of scenery" trope in hockey coverage. People are often asked about why they're successful in their stops after leaving a market where they had some challenges (although, Cogliano didn't really have much actual challenges here - he had a relatively successful career as an Oiler during a time when the team just flat out sucked). The expected answer is always that the change was needed, and that they just developed more after that move. Is it true? Usually not.

Cogliano is 35 yrs old, he's in his 16th season in the NHL. He's played in 1169 games in the NHL, 328 with the Oilers. So 11 seasons and 841 games have been playing not part of the Oilers. So the majority of his career he's not been an Oiler. So what value would he get from lying?

We have seen it time and time again from all kinds of players year after year who for whatever reason do not make it work for their first team. Then they get traded and it clicks. But this is an Oilers thing of course.

I don't even know why I bother answering anything you say because it's the same crap and it's a complete waste of my time because I know the outcome. You are right, I am wrong no matter what. I repeat a direct quote from someone, you tell me the quote is wrong or he didn't mean it that way or the player is lying. I could repeated the documented score of the game and you'd tell me I was wrong. You must be a real treat at parties correcting everyone about every topic.

There is no point in debating with you about anything. Congratulations Adam, you won. You beat me. I give up!



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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 19 December 2022 11:31

Adam wrote on Mon, 19 December 2022 10:59

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 16 December 2022 09:36


So you are saying Cogliano is a liar then? He literally did a LIVE radio interview with Gregor that 1000's of people heard, I repeated what he said that he thought he should be playing in a certain spot and doing certain things and he wouldn't accept anything less but it's the teams fault they couldn't make a grown ass man bend to their will. OK then.

The player is wrong and Adam is right. I stand corrected once again Adam. Thank you for showing me the error of my ways once again.


You are welcome.

As for players, they know what they're expected to say, and they're set up by questions from their interviewers. There's an expected way these things are always answered, and it's only notable when people go against that grain.

Some examples? Kadri had "tough love" from Dallas Eakins with the Toronto Marlies. It's unlikely it had anything to do with his future success. Eakins tried the same tricks with Yakupov and it just stripped the kid of confidence and ruined the prospect. Yet, Dallas Eakins has specifically said that he bears some responsibility for Kadri's post-Eakins success. Kadri, when asked about it, hasn't said much but what he has said was taking the path of least resistance and saying it was beneficial to him. Meanwhile, when asked years later about his experience with Pat Burns doing essentially the same thing to him as a rookie, Joe Thornton scoffed and said he didn't think he learned much sitting on his ass. He was more kind in his words after Burns' passing, but it was notable when he put lie to the trope.

There's a similar "change of scenery" trope in hockey coverage. People are often asked about why they're successful in their stops after leaving a market where they had some challenges (although, Cogliano didn't really have much actual challenges here - he had a relatively successful career as an Oiler during a time when the team just flat out sucked). The expected answer is always that the change was needed, and that they just developed more after that move. Is it true? Usually not.

Cogliano is 35 yrs old, he's in his 16th season in the NHL. He's played in 1169 games in the NHL, 328 with the Oilers. So 11 seasons and 841 games have been playing not part of the Oilers. So the majority of his career he's not been an Oiler. So what value would he get from lying?

We have seen it time and time again from all kinds of players year after year who for whatever reason do not make it work for their first team. Then they get traded and it clicks. But this is an Oilers thing of course.

I don't even know why I bother answering anything you say because it's the same crap and it's a complete waste of my time because I know the outcome. You are right, I am wrong no matter what. I repeat a direct quote from someone, you tell me the quote is wrong or he didn't mean it that way or the player is lying. I could repeated the documented score of the game and you'd tell me I was wrong. You must be a real treat at parties correcting everyone about every topic.

There is no point in debating with you about anything. Congratulations Adam, you won. You beat me. I give up!


It's not lying. Cogliano isn't pulling the wool over anyone's eyes. He's just feeding the narrative because it's the path of least resistance. The hockey world is really small, and there's no point in burning bridges, especially not when it's people who are well connected in hockey management. If you do, it hurts your chances of finding the next landing spot, or in finding a job after hockey.

It's really rare to hear someone carve a team who traded them, or express any anger or disappointment about a team or coach or management, no matter how bad it was, or how poorly their development path was laid out. It's one of the reasons it was so notable that there were low-level criticisms of Eakins and his practices from Hemsky, Smid and others as they left. The fact there was any criticism spoke volumes.

Cogliano is years removed from Edmonton. He has had greater success in the time since he left. He probably thinks it was a gong show here, because it was for his whole time here, and the guys who dealt him literally believed that they'd upgraded in getting Eric Belanger. But what does it benefit him to say that? It's more risky, because slagging Quinn, MacTavish, Lowe, Tambellini might just piss off people. So you say "I really grew after that, and I found a role where I can be successful." And when Gregor asks a stupid question about whether he needed to leave Edmonton to get there, he just says, "sure."



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If a players attitude sucks I still put a large portion of the blame on the organization. Great organizations will face the conflict and work on building a better relationship moving forward with clear lines of two-way communication. If that player enjoys success elsewhere, he did not do it alone. Something is different.

Edmonton appears to be missing something to this regard. Too many players leave here and enjoy success elsewhere, and on the flipside, many come here and completely regress.

There is something in the water.



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Sounds like a Kostin is good to go on Tuesday. The most horrible thing I’ve watched since Stortini bent his leg in half and didn’t miss a game.


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inverno76 wrote on Sun, 01 January 2023 13:50

Sounds like a Kostin is good to go on Tuesday. The most horrible thing I’ve watched since Stortini bent his leg in half and didn’t miss a game.


Nice. Was going to cry about how Oilers fan never get to enjoy nice things (obviously tone deaf because we have McDavid), but KK lives!



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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 01 January 2023 14:58

inverno76 wrote on Sun, 01 January 2023 13:50

Sounds like a Kostin is good to go on Tuesday. The most horrible thing I’ve watched since Stortini bent his leg in half and didn’t miss a game.


Nice. Was going to cry about how Oilers fan never get to enjoy nice things (obviously tone deaf because we have McDavid), but KK lives!

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inverno76 wrote on Sun, 01 January 2023 12:50

Sounds like a Kostin is good to go on Tuesday. The most horrible thing I’ve watched since Stortini bent his leg in half and didn’t miss a game.


Here it is on Oiler Fanatic .. at 0:27 sec photo of the Klim Reaper with McD..
Couldn't find the photo posted on his IG.. please post if you can find it..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDsiNTyojrs



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https://twitter.com/edmontonoilers/status/160966117848110284 8?s=46&t=c7LssGoF5_qR8PlLO7a_LQ

“Ready for Tuesday 💪😉”



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inverno76 wrote on Sun, 01 January 2023 21:14

https://twitter.com/edmontonoilers/status/160966117848110284 8?s=46&t=c7LssGoF5_qR8PlLO7a_LQ

“Ready for Tuesday 💪😉”


I guess Ancestry.ca results were correct.. got some distant Rasputin DNA circulating in there.icon_nod

Rah Rah Klim Kostin
Sticks up for his Oiler team
There is a kat that can lay down the smack
Rah Rah Klim Kostin
Oilers newest check machine
Then that D-bag clown took out his leg..

.. but he's back!

Awesome news.. thought he was done.. might still be held out for a few games by medical staff.. but great news regardless.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlaqTkPaEAEYM2L?format=jpg&name=small

[Updated on: Mon, 02 January 2023 01:46]


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P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,

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Great news!!


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Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 02 January 2023 08:42

inverno76 wrote on Sun, 01 January 2023 21:14

https://twitter.com/edmontonoilers/status/160966117848110284 8?s=46&t=c7LssGoF5_qR8PlLO7a_LQ

“Ready for Tuesday 💪😉”


I guess Ancestry.ca results were correct.. got some distant Rasputin DNA circulating in there.icon_nod

Rah Rah Klim Kostin
Sticks up for his Oiler team
There is a kat that can lay down the smack
Rah Rah Klim Kostin
Oilers newest check machine
Then that D-bag clown took out his leg..

.. but he's back!

Awesome news.. thought he was done.. might still be held out for a few games by medical staff.. but great news regardless.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlaqTkPaEAEYM2L?format=jpg&name=small


McDavid still looking awkward as always lmao.



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Beaut!

https://twitter.com/oilygifs/status/1609991965546016768?s=20



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P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,

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Draisaitl and Kostin on the ice this morning. Draisaitl skating on a regular line here with Foegele and Yamamoto.



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https://dailyhive.com/edmonton/kostin-oilers-cult-status-min i-troll-flames-fan

What a guy.



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There is a guy who is taking his new opportunity and deciding to run with it both on and off the ice. Nice to see.


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Kostin gets it. No sense of entitlement - just pure joy for the privilege of playing the best game in the world in its top league. Understands where the paycheque comes from. Real gem, even if he never scores another goal ...


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AndersonRules wrote on Fri, 27 January 2023 13:26

Kostin gets it. No sense of entitlement - just pure joy for the privilege of playing the best game in the world in its top league. Understands where the paycheque comes from. Real gem, even if he never scores another goal ...

Be nice if he got more the 9 minutes of ice time he has been getting lately.



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Would be nice, indeed. The only thing that Kostin needs to work on is getting a little quicker... he's got the hands and the size, and he moves around well positionally, but he lacks a speed burst that can take him into the danger zone between the circles quickly. If he can add that, he's going to be one hell of a power forward.


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Love what kostin has brought so far. Wouldn't be surprised if he has a long quiet period though, which should help with his next contract. Hope we don't rush a negotiation like we did with Kassian. Still a young player that hasn't proven consistency yet.


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Kr55 wrote on Sat, 28 January 2023 11:08

Love what kostin has brought so far. Wouldn't be surprised if he has a long quiet period though, which should help with his next contract. Hope we don't rush a negotiation like we did with Kassian. Still a young player that hasn't proven consistency yet.


Maybe his 9-minutes a night is Woodcroft trying to save Holland from himself? Heard he was thinking of making another Kassian mistake and decided he needed to tap the brakes...



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Kostin is a beaut there, no doubt. People don't see that it was Desharnais that stood up first though. They are both awesome.



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I'm missing this guy already.. shudda found a way..
He doesn't pick his spots.. Gudbranson is a beast.. good tilt..

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I wanted him on the Oilers but not for 2 mill. If he would have signed a 1 yr, come in and did what he did over a whole season, then after that I would entertain giving him 2 mill.


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