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inverno76 wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 11:38

Glad it ended in 5. Liver needs a rest.


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Guys, been trying to find some post game comments from Tkachuk, as I really want to enjoy seeing that miserable ass sulk, but I cannot find any anyhwere

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Serious Series thoughts

- Hyman is a horse. I don’t think theres I’ve seen a better player at having guys stuck to him while still somehow carrying the puck for a minute.
- I am getting more concerned about Smith the longer the playoffs go on. Hope the at least 3 nights rest is good to everyone.
- The whole top 6 did more than their fair share. Still would like to see something from the bottom. Specifically Foegele, Archibald, and Kassian. We shouldn’t forget that Derrick Brassard is on the team.
- Puljujarvi gets so much criticism but I think he had a fine series, they just didn’t go in. Same for McLeod.
- Historic production from 29 and 97, what can you say. Kane too.
- Calgary had nothing going for them really. Only player who gave us trouble was Backlund. Gaudreau and Tkachuk were very quiet. Markstrom made some great stops, but at the same time was very very weak. It will get tougher for us from here.
- Very surprised that there was zero fights in a BOA playoff series.
- Awesome to finally have a coach take advantage of matchups, getting Connor out there against Lucic minutes on minutes is somehow poetic.

And now anytime my Flamer friends try to talk smack, I’m just gonna say “remember 2022?”

On to the final four!

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This series to me showed the difference in teams.

The Oilers are a team that are accustom to winning games when their goalie isn't great. It took them a few seasons but they have learned to shake bad goals off and to keep coming. At times so far Smith was amazing, at times Smith was just OK and at times Smith was bad. The Oilers kept finding ways to come back and more times than not when they weren't getting the saves, to find a way to win. Who ever they play next, it will be tough but I feel like they have a legit chance regardless if they get amazing goaltending or not.

The Flames on the other hand. Last year Markstrom wasn't that good and they missed the playoffs all together with the bulk of this years team already there. This season Markstrom had a career year. Blowing his career average numbers out of the water, being a vezina nominee and the Flames cruised.

Playoffs hit. Smith gives the Oilers up and down goaltending but is better than Markstrom and the Oilers cruise to a 4-1 series win. Markstrom is below average the whole series, even pretty lousy in their 1 win and the Flames get smoked.

What I found interesting also is during the season and going into the playoffs, it was all about the Flames. Flames are so deep, they are so good, goalie is so good, etc, etc. Then I look at the standings. Oilers had lots of long injuries to key guys, Flames had none. The Oilers had up and down goaltending Flames got vezina nominee goaltending. The Flames finished only 7 pts better than the Oilers, the Oilers only had 1 less win than the Flames and the other 6 pts the Flames had on the Oilers were Bettman loser points. So maybe the Flames weren't that much better than the Oilers.

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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 12:40

This series to me showed the difference in teams.

The Oilers are a team that are accustom to winning games when their goalie isn't great. It took them a few seasons but they have learned to shake bad goals off and to keep coming. At times so far Smith was amazing, at times Smith was just OK and at times Smith was bad. The Oilers kept finding ways to come back and more times than not when they weren't getting the saves, to find a way to win. Who ever they play next, it will be tough but I feel like they have a legit chance regardless if they get amazing goaltending or not.

The Flames on the other hand. Last year Markstrom wasn't that good and they missed the playoffs all together with the bulk of this years team already there. This season Markstrom had a career year. Blowing his career average numbers out of the water, being a vezina nominee and the Flames cruised.

Playoffs hit. Smith gives the Oilers up and down goaltending but is better than Markstrom and the Oilers cruise to a 4-1 series win. Markstrom is below average the whole series, even pretty lousy in their 1 win and the Flames get smoked.

What I found interesting also is during the season and going into the playoffs, it was all about the Flames. Flames are so deep, they are so good, goalie is so good, etc, etc. Then I look at the standings. Oilers had lots of long injuries to key guys, Flames had none. The Oilers had up and down goaltending Flames got vezina nominee goaltending. The Flames finished only 7 pts better than the Oilers, the Oilers only had 1 less win than the Flames and the other 6 pts the Flames had on the Oilers were Bettman loser points. So maybe the Flames weren't that much better than the Oilers.


I think it's fair to say that the Flames were a better team than the Dave Tippett Oilers, not so much the Jay Woodcroft Oilers. The Flames didn't go 2-11-2 at any point in the season. After the coaching change the Flames and Oilers were actually the top 2 teams in the league (at least points wise), with the Oilers going 26-9-3 and the Flames going 26-8-5.

Oilers Goal Differential
17/18: 234 GF / 263 GA (-29)
18/19: 232 GF / 274 GA (-42)
19/20 (82 game pace): 257 GF / 254 GA (+3) in 64 games
2021 (82 game pace):269 GF / 235 GA (+34) after 38 games

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Goose wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 13:59

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 12:40

This series to me showed the difference in teams.

The Oilers are a team that are accustom to winning games when their goalie isn't great. It took them a few seasons but they have learned to shake bad goals off and to keep coming. At times so far Smith was amazing, at times Smith was just OK and at times Smith was bad. The Oilers kept finding ways to come back and more times than not when they weren't getting the saves, to find a way to win. Who ever they play next, it will be tough but I feel like they have a legit chance regardless if they get amazing goaltending or not.

The Flames on the other hand. Last year Markstrom wasn't that good and they missed the playoffs all together with the bulk of this years team already there. This season Markstrom had a career year. Blowing his career average numbers out of the water, being a vezina nominee and the Flames cruised.

Playoffs hit. Smith gives the Oilers up and down goaltending but is better than Markstrom and the Oilers cruise to a 4-1 series win. Markstrom is below average the whole series, even pretty lousy in their 1 win and the Flames get smoked.

What I found interesting also is during the season and going into the playoffs, it was all about the Flames. Flames are so deep, they are so good, goalie is so good, etc, etc. Then I look at the standings. Oilers had lots of long injuries to key guys, Flames had none. The Oilers had up and down goaltending Flames got vezina nominee goaltending. The Flames finished only 7 pts better than the Oilers, the Oilers only had 1 less win than the Flames and the other 6 pts the Flames had on the Oilers were Bettman loser points. So maybe the Flames weren't that much better than the Oilers.


I think it's fair to say that the Flames were a better team than the Dave Tippett Oilers, not so much the Jay Woodcroft Oilers. The Flames didn't go 2-11-2 at any point in the season. After the coaching change the Flames and Oilers were actually the top 2 teams in the league (at least points wise), with the Oilers going 26-9-3 and the Flames going 26-8-5.


Tippet was fired Feb 11, that was 3.5 months ago. So who cares if the Flames were better 3.5 months ago or the bad stretch the Oilers had after Christmas. Doesn't mean anything now.

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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 13:16

Goose wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 13:59

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 12:40

This series to me showed the difference in teams.

The Oilers are a team that are accustom to winning games when their goalie isn't great. It took them a few seasons but they have learned to shake bad goals off and to keep coming. At times so far Smith was amazing, at times Smith was just OK and at times Smith was bad. The Oilers kept finding ways to come back and more times than not when they weren't getting the saves, to find a way to win. Who ever they play next, it will be tough but I feel like they have a legit chance regardless if they get amazing goaltending or not.

The Flames on the other hand. Last year Markstrom wasn't that good and they missed the playoffs all together with the bulk of this years team already there. This season Markstrom had a career year. Blowing his career average numbers out of the water, being a vezina nominee and the Flames cruised.

Playoffs hit. Smith gives the Oilers up and down goaltending but is better than Markstrom and the Oilers cruise to a 4-1 series win. Markstrom is below average the whole series, even pretty lousy in their 1 win and the Flames get smoked.

What I found interesting also is during the season and going into the playoffs, it was all about the Flames. Flames are so deep, they are so good, goalie is so good, etc, etc. Then I look at the standings. Oilers had lots of long injuries to key guys, Flames had none. The Oilers had up and down goaltending Flames got vezina nominee goaltending. The Flames finished only 7 pts better than the Oilers, the Oilers only had 1 less win than the Flames and the other 6 pts the Flames had on the Oilers were Bettman loser points. So maybe the Flames weren't that much better than the Oilers.


I think it's fair to say that the Flames were a better team than the Dave Tippett Oilers, not so much the Jay Woodcroft Oilers. The Flames didn't go 2-11-2 at any point in the season. After the coaching change the Flames and Oilers were actually the top 2 teams in the league (at least points wise), with the Oilers going 26-9-3 and the Flames going 26-8-5.


Tippet was fired Feb 11, that was 3.5 months ago. So who cares if the Flames were better 3.5 months ago or the bad stretch the Oilers had after Christmas. Doesn't mean anything now.


You did. You cared. You literally said, "during the season...it was all about the Flames".


Oilers Goal Differential
17/18: 234 GF / 263 GA (-29)
18/19: 232 GF / 274 GA (-42)
19/20 (82 game pace): 257 GF / 254 GA (+3) in 64 games
2021 (82 game pace):269 GF / 235 GA (+34) after 38 games

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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 15:40


What I found interesting also is during the season and going into the playoffs, it was all about the Flames. Flames are so deep, they are so good, goalie is so good, etc, etc. Then I look at the standings. Oilers had lots of long injuries to key guys, Flames had none. The Oilers had up and down goaltending Flames got vezina nominee goaltending. The Flames finished only 7 pts better than the Oilers, the Oilers only had 1 less win than the Flames and the other 6 pts the Flames had on the Oilers were Bettman loser points. So maybe the Flames weren't that much better than the Oilers.


Honestly before the series I had forgotten how many wins each team had, and was surprised when I saw Calgary had just 1 more win. This is considering the 2-11-2 stretch we had. Calgary and Darryl Sutter seemed to he the darlings of the media during the season, and I think they bought into their own hype.

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oilfan94 wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 14:00

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 15:40


What I found interesting also is during the season and going into the playoffs, it was all about the Flames. Flames are so deep, they are so good, goalie is so good, etc, etc. Then I look at the standings. Oilers had lots of long injuries to key guys, Flames had none. The Oilers had up and down goaltending Flames got vezina nominee goaltending. The Flames finished only 7 pts better than the Oilers, the Oilers only had 1 less win than the Flames and the other 6 pts the Flames had on the Oilers were Bettman loser points. So maybe the Flames weren't that much better than the Oilers.


Honestly before the series I had forgotten how many wins each team had, and was surprised when I saw Calgary had just 1 more win. This is considering the 2-11-2 stretch we had. Calgary and Darryl Sutter seemed to he the darlings of the media during the season, and I think they bought into their own hype.

I 100% agree. The Flames had SOOOO many things go right for them and no one in the media seemed to mention that.

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It seems like Steelcroft doesn't get enough credit for his coaching performance overall since he took over from Tipps. The performance improvement in all areas under his eye has been phenomenal, and in the playoffs he has out-coached both TMac (which isn't saying much) and Sutter (which is saying much given his two Cup rings). This team looks absolutely nothing like the one that bowed out in a sweep to the Jets last year. Granted, there were some personnel changes in the offseason, but those guys weren't performing particularly well under Tippett.

It's too bad that Steelcroft took over too late to be in the running for the Jack Adams Trophy, because he's done an awesome job since stepping in.

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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 13:40

This series to me showed the difference in teams.

The Oilers are a team that are accustom to winning games when their goalie isn't great. It took them a few seasons but they have learned to shake bad goals off and to keep coming. At times so far Smith was amazing, at times Smith was just OK and at times Smith was bad. The Oilers kept finding ways to come back and more times than not when they weren't getting the saves, to find a way to win. Who ever they play next, it will be tough but I feel like they have a legit chance regardless if they get amazing goaltending or not.

The Flames on the other hand. Last year Markstrom wasn't that good and they missed the playoffs all together with the bulk of this years team already there. This season Markstrom had a career year. Blowing his career average numbers out of the water, being a vezina nominee and the Flames cruised.

Playoffs hit. Smith gives the Oilers up and down goaltending but is better than Markstrom and the Oilers cruise to a 4-1 series win. Markstrom is below average the whole series, even pretty lousy in their 1 win and the Flames get smoked.

What I found interesting also is during the season and going into the playoffs, it was all about the Flames. Flames are so deep, they are so good, goalie is so good, etc, etc. Then I look at the standings. Oilers had lots of long injuries to key guys, Flames had none. The Oilers had up and down goaltending Flames got vezina nominee goaltending. The Flames finished only 7 pts better than the Oilers, the Oilers only had 1 less win than the Flames and the other 6 pts the Flames had on the Oilers were Bettman loser points. So maybe the Flames weren't that much better than the Oilers.


Career years from Johnny (contract year), Tkachuk (contract year) and Markstrom were huge for the Lames this year. All 3 of those guys were mediocre after game 1 of the series. Johnny was too busy throwing pucks away to avoid checks and shooting from terrible angles to avoid being touched. Tkachuk, I think our players just ghosted him and he couldn't get anything going. His energy level is almost completely dependent on getting reactions to his trolling. Our reaction to him just stopped. Marky, probably rattled in that first game and just never got his game back together. Maybe he learns from this series, but he was basically Kostko the whole series.

Never know what you're getting in a series. I don't think anyone could have predicted how wide open it was and how much scoring there was after the series the Flames just had, and even ours against the Kings. Quick had some amazing games against us and you would have been crazy to predict Marky's game just falling off after his first round.

Next series is definitely going to be a totally different beast. St Louis will be riding on McDavid's back as much as they can. Maybe Binnington comes back and plays similar to Quick. Colorado has a 2-3 line attack and a great shutdown pair of D to play McDavid. Kuemper has been shaky but who knows what he would do against us. Just hoping that St Louis and Colorado beat the hell out of each other for 2 more games.

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Kr55 wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 14:14

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 13:40

This series to me showed the difference in teams.

The Oilers are a team that are accustom to winning games when their goalie isn't great. It took them a few seasons but they have learned to shake bad goals off and to keep coming. At times so far Smith was amazing, at times Smith was just OK and at times Smith was bad. The Oilers kept finding ways to come back and more times than not when they weren't getting the saves, to find a way to win. Who ever they play next, it will be tough but I feel like they have a legit chance regardless if they get amazing goaltending or not.

The Flames on the other hand. Last year Markstrom wasn't that good and they missed the playoffs all together with the bulk of this years team already there. This season Markstrom had a career year. Blowing his career average numbers out of the water, being a vezina nominee and the Flames cruised.

Playoffs hit. Smith gives the Oilers up and down goaltending but is better than Markstrom and the Oilers cruise to a 4-1 series win. Markstrom is below average the whole series, even pretty lousy in their 1 win and the Flames get smoked.

What I found interesting also is during the season and going into the playoffs, it was all about the Flames. Flames are so deep, they are so good, goalie is so good, etc, etc. Then I look at the standings. Oilers had lots of long injuries to key guys, Flames had none. The Oilers had up and down goaltending Flames got vezina nominee goaltending. The Flames finished only 7 pts better than the Oilers, the Oilers only had 1 less win than the Flames and the other 6 pts the Flames had on the Oilers were Bettman loser points. So maybe the Flames weren't that much better than the Oilers.


Career years from Johnny (contract year), Tkachuk (contract year) and Markstrom were huge for the Lames this year. All 3 of those guys were mediocre after game 1 of the series. Johnny was too busy throwing pucks away to avoid checks and shooting from terrible angles to avoid being touched. Tkachuk, I think our players just ghosted him and he couldn't get anything going. His energy level is almost completely dependent on getting reactions to his trolling. Our reaction to him just stopped. Marky, probably rattled in that first game and just never got his game back together. Maybe he learns from this series, but he was basically Kostko the whole series.


SOOOO many Flames had career years all at once. Johnny, Tkachuk, Mangiapane put in 35 goals. I can't see any of them duplicating. Markstrom shot the lights out. Andersson put up 50 pts. Lindholm up for a selke. Not a single major injury for anyone important for the Flames all season. I didn't have the Oilers in 5 but I thought if the Oilers just got average goaltending, they could beat the Flames.

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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 14:21

Kr55 wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 14:14

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 13:40

This series to me showed the difference in teams.

The Oilers are a team that are accustom to winning games when their goalie isn't great. It took them a few seasons but they have learned to shake bad goals off and to keep coming. At times so far Smith was amazing, at times Smith was just OK and at times Smith was bad. The Oilers kept finding ways to come back and more times than not when they weren't getting the saves, to find a way to win. Who ever they play next, it will be tough but I feel like they have a legit chance regardless if they get amazing goaltending or not.

The Flames on the other hand. Last year Markstrom wasn't that good and they missed the playoffs all together with the bulk of this years team already there. This season Markstrom had a career year. Blowing his career average numbers out of the water, being a vezina nominee and the Flames cruised.

Playoffs hit. Smith gives the Oilers up and down goaltending but is better than Markstrom and the Oilers cruise to a 4-1 series win. Markstrom is below average the whole series, even pretty lousy in their 1 win and the Flames get smoked.

What I found interesting also is during the season and going into the playoffs, it was all about the Flames. Flames are so deep, they are so good, goalie is so good, etc, etc. Then I look at the standings. Oilers had lots of long injuries to key guys, Flames had none. The Oilers had up and down goaltending Flames got vezina nominee goaltending. The Flames finished only 7 pts better than the Oilers, the Oilers only had 1 less win than the Flames and the other 6 pts the Flames had on the Oilers were Bettman loser points. So maybe the Flames weren't that much better than the Oilers.


Career years from Johnny (contract year), Tkachuk (contract year) and Markstrom were huge for the Lames this year. All 3 of those guys were mediocre after game 1 of the series. Johnny was too busy throwing pucks away to avoid checks and shooting from terrible angles to avoid being touched. Tkachuk, I think our players just ghosted him and he couldn't get anything going. His energy level is almost completely dependent on getting reactions to his trolling. Our reaction to him just stopped. Marky, probably rattled in that first game and just never got his game back together. Maybe he learns from this series, but he was basically Kostko the whole series.


SOOOO many Flames had career years all at once. Johnny, Tkachuk, Mangiapane put in 35 goals. I can't see any of them duplicating. Markstrom shot the lights out. Andersson put up 50 pts. Lindholm up for a selke. Not a single major injury for anyone important for the Flames all season. I didn't have the Oilers in 5 but I thought if the Oilers just got average goaltending, they could beat the Flames.

Hilariously the Oilers won without getting average goaltending.

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CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 14:22

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 14:21

Kr55 wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 14:14

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 13:40

This series to me showed the difference in teams.

The Oilers are a team that are accustom to winning games when their goalie isn't great. It took them a few seasons but they have learned to shake bad goals off and to keep coming. At times so far Smith was amazing, at times Smith was just OK and at times Smith was bad. The Oilers kept finding ways to come back and more times than not when they weren't getting the saves, to find a way to win. Who ever they play next, it will be tough but I feel like they have a legit chance regardless if they get amazing goaltending or not.

The Flames on the other hand. Last year Markstrom wasn't that good and they missed the playoffs all together with the bulk of this years team already there. This season Markstrom had a career year. Blowing his career average numbers out of the water, being a vezina nominee and the Flames cruised.

Playoffs hit. Smith gives the Oilers up and down goaltending but is better than Markstrom and the Oilers cruise to a 4-1 series win. Markstrom is below average the whole series, even pretty lousy in their 1 win and the Flames get smoked.

What I found interesting also is during the season and going into the playoffs, it was all about the Flames. Flames are so deep, they are so good, goalie is so good, etc, etc. Then I look at the standings. Oilers had lots of long injuries to key guys, Flames had none. The Oilers had up and down goaltending Flames got vezina nominee goaltending. The Flames finished only 7 pts better than the Oilers, the Oilers only had 1 less win than the Flames and the other 6 pts the Flames had on the Oilers were Bettman loser points. So maybe the Flames weren't that much better than the Oilers.


Career years from Johnny (contract year), Tkachuk (contract year) and Markstrom were huge for the Lames this year. All 3 of those guys were mediocre after game 1 of the series. Johnny was too busy throwing pucks away to avoid checks and shooting from terrible angles to avoid being touched. Tkachuk, I think our players just ghosted him and he couldn't get anything going. His energy level is almost completely dependent on getting reactions to his trolling. Our reaction to him just stopped. Marky, probably rattled in that first game and just never got his game back together. Maybe he learns from this series, but he was basically Kostko the whole series.


SOOOO many Flames had career years all at once. Johnny, Tkachuk, Mangiapane put in 35 goals. I can't see any of them duplicating. Markstrom shot the lights out. Andersson put up 50 pts. Lindholm up for a selke. Not a single major injury for anyone important for the Flames all season. I didn't have the Oilers in 5 but I thought if the Oilers just got average goaltending, they could beat the Flames.

Hilariously the Oilers won without getting average goaltending.

They are used to it. If they could get even decent goaltending, they could be unstoppable.

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Kr55 wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 14:14

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 13:40

This series to me showed the difference in teams.

The Oilers are a team that are accustom to winning games when their goalie isn't great. It took them a few seasons but they have learned to shake bad goals off and to keep coming. At times so far Smith was amazing, at times Smith was just OK and at times Smith was bad. The Oilers kept finding ways to come back and more times than not when they weren't getting the saves, to find a way to win. Who ever they play next, it will be tough but I feel like they have a legit chance regardless if they get amazing goaltending or not.

The Flames on the other hand. Last year Markstrom wasn't that good and they missed the playoffs all together with the bulk of this years team already there. This season Markstrom had a career year. Blowing his career average numbers out of the water, being a vezina nominee and the Flames cruised.

Playoffs hit. Smith gives the Oilers up and down goaltending but is better than Markstrom and the Oilers cruise to a 4-1 series win. Markstrom is below average the whole series, even pretty lousy in their 1 win and the Flames get smoked.

What I found interesting also is during the season and going into the playoffs, it was all about the Flames. Flames are so deep, they are so good, goalie is so good, etc, etc. Then I look at the standings. Oilers had lots of long injuries to key guys, Flames had none. The Oilers had up and down goaltending Flames got vezina nominee goaltending. The Flames finished only 7 pts better than the Oilers, the Oilers only had 1 less win than the Flames and the other 6 pts the Flames had on the Oilers were Bettman loser points. So maybe the Flames weren't that much better than the Oilers.


Career years from Johnny (contract year), Tkachuk (contract year) and Markstrom were huge for the Lames this year. All 3 of those guys were mediocre after game 1 of the series. Johnny was too busy throwing pucks away to avoid checks and shooting from terrible angles to avoid being touched. Tkachuk, I think our players just ghosted him and he couldn't get anything going. His energy level is almost completely dependent on getting reactions to his trolling. Our reaction to him just stopped. Marky, probably rattled in that first game and just never got his game back together. Maybe he learns from this series, but he was basically Kostko the whole series.


SOOOO many Flames had career years all at once. Johnny, Tkachuk, Mangiapane put in 35 goals. I can't see any of them duplicating. Markstrom shot the lights out. Andersson put up 50 pts. Lindholm up for a selke. Not a single major injury for anyone important for the Flames all season. I didn't have the Oilers in 5 but I thought if the Oilers just got average goaltending, they could beat the Flames.


Best part is going to be the Calgary offseason.

They need to trade Monahan and not retain anything, plus sign Tkachuk, Gaudreau, Kyllington and Mangiapane for under market value to fit under the cap and ice a team.

Including Monahan, they have 10 spots to fill and $27M to work with. Those 4 players listed above will eat up the majority of that money. Something needs to give.

Maybe Lucic will be sought after by almost every team?

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inverno76 wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 15:09

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 14:21

Kr55 wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 14:14

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 13:40

This series to me showed the difference in teams.

The Oilers are a team that are accustom to winning games when their goalie isn't great. It took them a few seasons but they have learned to shake bad goals off and to keep coming. At times so far Smith was amazing, at times Smith was just OK and at times Smith was bad. The Oilers kept finding ways to come back and more times than not when they weren't getting the saves, to find a way to win. Who ever they play next, it will be tough but I feel like they have a legit chance regardless if they get amazing goaltending or not.

The Flames on the other hand. Last year Markstrom wasn't that good and they missed the playoffs all together with the bulk of this years team already there. This season Markstrom had a career year. Blowing his career average numbers out of the water, being a vezina nominee and the Flames cruised.

Playoffs hit. Smith gives the Oilers up and down goaltending but is better than Markstrom and the Oilers cruise to a 4-1 series win. Markstrom is below average the whole series, even pretty lousy in their 1 win and the Flames get smoked.

What I found interesting also is during the season and going into the playoffs, it was all about the Flames. Flames are so deep, they are so good, goalie is so good, etc, etc. Then I look at the standings. Oilers had lots of long injuries to key guys, Flames had none. The Oilers had up and down goaltending Flames got vezina nominee goaltending. The Flames finished only 7 pts better than the Oilers, the Oilers only had 1 less win than the Flames and the other 6 pts the Flames had on the Oilers were Bettman loser points. So maybe the Flames weren't that much better than the Oilers.


Career years from Johnny (contract year), Tkachuk (contract year) and Markstrom were huge for the Lames this year. All 3 of those guys were mediocre after game 1 of the series. Johnny was too busy throwing pucks away to avoid checks and shooting from terrible angles to avoid being touched. Tkachuk, I think our players just ghosted him and he couldn't get anything going. His energy level is almost completely dependent on getting reactions to his trolling. Our reaction to him just stopped. Marky, probably rattled in that first game and just never got his game back together. Maybe he learns from this series, but he was basically Kostko the whole series.


SOOOO many Flames had career years all at once. Johnny, Tkachuk, Mangiapane put in 35 goals. I can't see any of them duplicating. Markstrom shot the lights out. Andersson put up 50 pts. Lindholm up for a selke. Not a single major injury for anyone important for the Flames all season. I didn't have the Oilers in 5 but I thought if the Oilers just got average goaltending, they could beat the Flames.


Best part is going to be the Calgary offseason.

They need to trade Monahan and not retain anything, plus sign Tkachuk, Gaudreau, Kyllington and Mangiapane for under market value to fit under the cap and ice a team.

Including Monahan, they have 10 spots to fill and $27M to work with. Those 4 players listed above will eat up the majority of that money. Something needs to give.

Maybe Lucic will be sought after by almost every team?


Monahan will be really hard to move given his injury issues. I think they'd need to give up a big piece in order to get him gone.

Gaudreau ain't coming back. We just ended his Calgary career. Eric Francis is currently writing an obit on #13's Flames career which is going to shiv him over his performance in this round, even though he scored the Round 1 OT winner as they watch him ride out of town towards an Eastern Seaboard team in the US.

Tkachuk will be the interesting one - I believe they have to qualify him at $9.25MM, and coming off a 100 point season and knowing that they're losing Gaudreau, there will be a lot of pressure to sign him long-term. He could very well be making 8 figures a year for the next several years as he becomes the star of the team moving forward.

Lucic happily gets to retire as a Flame.

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Woody was in the zone last night. undistractable

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Kr55 wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 14:36

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Woody was in the zone last night. undistractable

The Oilers need to bring their luck charms along for the western conference. Ben and those 4 girls.

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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 14:38

Kr55 wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 14:36

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Woody was in the zone last night. undistractable

The Oilers need to bring their luck charms along for the western conference. Ben and those 4 girls.

But who would be chaperoning who?

I can't believe Cowboys is still a thing.

Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.

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CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 14:53

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 14:38

Kr55 wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 14:36

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Woody was in the zone last night. undistractable

The Oilers need to bring their luck charms along for the western conference. Ben and those 4 girls.

But who would be chaperoning who?

I can't believe Cowboys is still a thing.


https://dailyhive.com/edmonton/cowgirls-cowboys-flames-fans- oilers-playoff-game

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Kr55 wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 17:30

CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 14:53

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 14:38

Kr55 wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 14:36

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Woody was in the zone last night. undistractable

The Oilers need to bring their luck charms along for the western conference. Ben and those 4 girls.

But who would be chaperoning who?

I can't believe Cowboys is still a thing.


https://dailyhive.com/edmonton/cowgirls-cowboys-flames-fans- oilers-playoff-game

I'm surprised that the cameraman didn't just fixate on them during every break in play. The one with her hand on the glass in particular is a smoking hottie, wow.

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Annoying but effective guerrilla marketing.

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CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 18:49

Annoying but effective guerrilla marketing.

I don't think I'd use the word "annoying" to describe those girls.

"There's no greater springboard to development than failure." - Craig MacTavish, April 13/15.

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Ragnarok73 wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 20:07

CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 18:49

Annoying but effective guerrilla marketing.

I don't think I'd use the word "annoying" to describe those girls.

I don't know man. Maybe I'm getting old.

Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.

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CrusaderPi wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 00:05

Ragnarok73 wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 20:07

CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 18:49

Annoying but effective guerrilla marketing.

I don't think I'd use the word "annoying" to describe those girls.

I don't know man. Maybe I'm getting old.


Then we’re both getting old, b/c same.

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Kr55 wrote on Fri, 27 May 2022 13:36

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Woody was in the zone last night. undistractable



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #5) [message #807744 is a reply to message #807578 ]
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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #5) [message #807749 is a reply to message #807578 ]
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Few quick thoughts:

- What a series by McDavid and Draisaitl. Those are two guys who just weren't going to be denied. They've raised their games to the absolute highest level.

- Apparently all those slashes in the ankle didn't work.

- Josh Archibald should be shuffled aside for Holloway in Game 1 of the next round. 5 goals again, none for in 28 minutes of ice-time in the 5 game series. Apparently with McDavid off the ice in that series, the Oilers were outscored 10-5, but literally half those goals against and none for with Archibald on ice. Holloway may be a rookie but he literally can't do worse.

- I think Colorado might be a better fit for us, but I really hope we get a Game 7 there, and two mean, physical games that take a serious toll on both teams. Wouldn't mind seeing the Avs with some bumps on bruises on their top players and a quick start to the next round - maybe Tuesday next week.

- A buddy of mine challenged whether I still think poorly of the job done by Ken Holland. While he hasn't only made mistakes - Hyman, Ceci, Kane and Kulak have all been solid contributors to this run - I still can't celebrate the GM in any meaningful way. We have the two best players in the game in their absolute prime. We SHOULD be Cup contenders every year, and there's a pretty strong argument to be made that we are only contenders at this point because we have the top two players in the game in their absolute prime and playing at the pinnacle of their games. McDavid's been on the ice for 38 goals for so far in the playoffs. That's more than every team but Colorado has scored. They've put this team on their back and dragged them forward. The biggest hole for the Oilers remains goaltending - our goalie coughed up Game 1 to the Kings, got destroyed in the first period of both Game 1 and Game 2 versus the Flames, let in a goal from the opposing city in Game 4 and has been average at best through this playoff. That Gaudreau goal last night was pretty stinky too. Holland is only lucky that we have been able to outscore our problems in a lot of games. There's a pretty good argument to be made that the reason we are basically only playing 9-10 forwards a night is because the GM provided a shallow pool for depth. Several of the guys he's acquired as depth guys - Turris, Sceviour, Shore, Brassard - haven't got a sniff in the post-season. And the other big reason we're winning is a coach who's only hear on an interim basis because Tippett lost a game badly in February after a terrible stretch. Woodcroft's system has done a phenomenal job at chance suppression, which is a necessity when you have a mediocre goalie. And if Tippett had won that night, Tippett keeps his job for longer, maybe all year. If the Oilers scrape in to a playoff spot, then he might have gotten extended, since the GM said he had been considering offering one just 6 weeks before he fired him. It's not like he went hunting for a replacement and thought Woodcroft was the best option either...he said he only looked at internal options. We're just lucky we got who we did. Hopefully, if we win this summer then Holland (and Keith) decide to end their careers as winners and sail off in to the sunset...

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #5) [message #807782 is a reply to message #807749 ]
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I hate to get negative here with our team waiting to start the WCF, but I truly believe the biggest reason we are where we are right now, comes from Woodcroft and Manson’s coaching (inking these 2 to a deal better be the top priority of the summer). .

And Kane finishing touches….

Holland promoted from within, which was the right call. He better do the right thing again and extend these two.

Holland has still handcuffed this team from re-signing Kane, Kulak and getting a goalie upgrade in the offseason. Here is to hoping Holloway, Skinner and Broberg can take the Bouchard leap next year.


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inverno76 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 09:00

I hate to get negative here with our team waiting to start the WCF, but I truly believe the biggest reason we are where we are right now, comes from Woodcroft and Manson’s coaching (inking these 2 to a deal better be the top priority of the summer). .

And Kane finishing touches….

Holland promoted from within, which was the right call. He better do the right thing again and extend these two.

Holland has still handcuffed this team from re-signing Kane, Kulak and getting a goalie upgrade in the offseason. Here is to hoping Holloway, Skinner and Broberg can take the Bouchard leap next year.





Idgaf about the offseason right now, we’re literally in the middle of Must season. Enjoy the ride, the rest is simply noise to take the focus off. Put up the blinders and LFGOOOOILERS!!!!

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Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 11:18

inverno76 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 09:00

I hate to get negative here with our team waiting to start the WCF, but I truly believe the biggest reason we are where we are right now, comes from Woodcroft and Manson’s coaching (inking these 2 to a deal better be the top priority of the summer). .

And Kane finishing touches….

Holland promoted from within, which was the right call. He better do the right thing again and extend these two.

Holland has still handcuffed this team from re-signing Kane, Kulak and getting a goalie upgrade in the offseason. Here is to hoping Holloway, Skinner and Broberg can take the Bouchard leap next year.





Idgaf about the offseason right now, we’re literally in the middle of Must season. Enjoy the ride, the rest is simply noise to take the focus off. Put up the blinders and LFGOOOOILERS!!!!


This exactly. We all love hockey for the big moments and want to win a cup. We all know that the off-season will eventually come, win or lose. Right now, we are a couple days removed from beating Calgary and are 1 of the last 4 teams left in the NHL witnessing some of the greatest hockey players play the best hockey of their lives. For all the stress the games cause, I'm happy we are here and hope it lasts as long as it can!

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #5) [message #807788 is a reply to message #807787 ]
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oilfan94 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 09:39

Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 11:18

inverno76 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 09:00

I hate to get negative here with our team waiting to start the WCF, but I truly believe the biggest reason we are where we are right now, comes from Woodcroft and Manson’s coaching (inking these 2 to a deal better be the top priority of the summer). .

And Kane finishing touches….

Holland promoted from within, which was the right call. He better do the right thing again and extend these two.

Holland has still handcuffed this team from re-signing Kane, Kulak and getting a goalie upgrade in the offseason. Here is to hoping Holloway, Skinner and Broberg can take the Bouchard leap next year.





Idgaf about the offseason right now, we’re literally in the middle of Must season. Enjoy the ride, the rest is simply noise to take the focus off. Put up the blinders and LFGOOOOILERS!!!!


This exactly. We all love hockey for the big moments and want to win a cup. We all know that the off-season will eventually come, win or lose. Right now, we are a couple days removed from beating Calgary and are 1 of the last 4 teams left in the NHL witnessing some of the greatest hockey players play the best hockey of their lives. For all the stress the games cause, I'm happy we are here and hope it lasts as long as it can!


You’re both right.

It’s just a new feeling I’m experiencing and I’m not handling it well. Pessimism is hard to shake.

LFFFFFFGGGGG!!

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #5) [message #807789 is a reply to message #807788 ]
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inverno76 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 10:08

oilfan94 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 09:39

Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 11:18

inverno76 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 09:00

I hate to get negative here with our team waiting to start the WCF, but I truly believe the biggest reason we are where we are right now, comes from Woodcroft and Manson’s coaching (inking these 2 to a deal better be the top priority of the summer). .

And Kane finishing touches….

Holland promoted from within, which was the right call. He better do the right thing again and extend these two.

Holland has still handcuffed this team from re-signing Kane, Kulak and getting a goalie upgrade in the offseason. Here is to hoping Holloway, Skinner and Broberg can take the Bouchard leap next year.





Idgaf about the offseason right now, we’re literally in the middle of Must season. Enjoy the ride, the rest is simply noise to take the focus off. Put up the blinders and LFGOOOOILERS!!!!


This exactly. We all love hockey for the big moments and want to win a cup. We all know that the off-season will eventually come, win or lose. Right now, we are a couple days removed from beating Calgary and are 1 of the last 4 teams left in the NHL witnessing some of the greatest hockey players play the best hockey of their lives. For all the stress the games cause, I'm happy we are here and hope it lasts as long as it can!


You’re both right.

It’s just a new feeling I’m experiencing and I’m not handling it well. Pessimism is hard to shake.

LFFFFFFGGGGG!!




And let's not forget that the win against Calgary means that the Oilers will at best pick 29th at the draft this year. It will be even worse if they do anymore winning. Haven't we been trained to think it's all about the draft position? Come on Oilers get your s**t together.

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #5) [message #807790 is a reply to message #807789 ]
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benv wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 09:55

inverno76 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 10:08

oilfan94 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 09:39

Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 11:18

inverno76 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 09:00

I hate to get negative here with our team waiting to start the WCF, but I truly believe the biggest reason we are where we are right now, comes from Woodcroft and Manson’s coaching (inking these 2 to a deal better be the top priority of the summer). .

And Kane finishing touches….

Holland promoted from within, which was the right call. He better do the right thing again and extend these two.

Holland has still handcuffed this team from re-signing Kane, Kulak and getting a goalie upgrade in the offseason. Here is to hoping Holloway, Skinner and Broberg can take the Bouchard leap next year.





Idgaf about the offseason right now, we’re literally in the middle of Must season. Enjoy the ride, the rest is simply noise to take the focus off. Put up the blinders and LFGOOOOILERS!!!!


This exactly. We all love hockey for the big moments and want to win a cup. We all know that the off-season will eventually come, win or lose. Right now, we are a couple days removed from beating Calgary and are 1 of the last 4 teams left in the NHL witnessing some of the greatest hockey players play the best hockey of their lives. For all the stress the games cause, I'm happy we are here and hope it lasts as long as it can!


You’re both right.

It’s just a new feeling I’m experiencing and I’m not handling it well. Pessimism is hard to shake.

LFFFFFFGGGGG!!




And let's not forget that the win against Calgary means that the Oilers will at best pick 29th at the draft this year. It will be even worse if they do anymore winning. Haven't we been trained to think it's all about the draft position? Come on Oilers get your s**t together.



And a win against Colorado likely triggers the 3rd round pick in the Keith trade becoming a 2nd (as long as he remains in the top 4 defense ice-time).

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #5) [message #807793 is a reply to message #807790 ]
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smyth260 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 11:19

benv wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 09:55

inverno76 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 10:08

oilfan94 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 09:39

Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 11:18

inverno76 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 09:00

I hate to get negative here with our team waiting to start the WCF, but I truly believe the biggest reason we are where we are right now, comes from Woodcroft and Manson’s coaching (inking these 2 to a deal better be the top priority of the summer). .

And Kane finishing touches….

Holland promoted from within, which was the right call. He better do the right thing again and extend these two.

Holland has still handcuffed this team from re-signing Kane, Kulak and getting a goalie upgrade in the offseason. Here is to hoping Holloway, Skinner and Broberg can take the Bouchard leap next year.





Idgaf about the offseason right now, we’re literally in the middle of Must season. Enjoy the ride, the rest is simply noise to take the focus off. Put up the blinders and LFGOOOOILERS!!!!


This exactly. We all love hockey for the big moments and want to win a cup. We all know that the off-season will eventually come, win or lose. Right now, we are a couple days removed from beating Calgary and are 1 of the last 4 teams left in the NHL witnessing some of the greatest hockey players play the best hockey of their lives. For all the stress the games cause, I'm happy we are here and hope it lasts as long as it can!


You’re both right.

It’s just a new feeling I’m experiencing and I’m not handling it well. Pessimism is hard to shake.

LFFFFFFGGGGG!!




And let's not forget that the win against Calgary means that the Oilers will at best pick 29th at the draft this year. It will be even worse if they do anymore winning. Haven't we been trained to think it's all about the draft position? Come on Oilers get your s**t together.



And a win against Colorado likely triggers the 3rd round pick in the Keith trade becoming a 2nd (as long as he remains in the top 4 defense ice-time).



It’s basically a 3rd at that point. I’d rather see this team play for a cup

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #5) [message #807819 is a reply to message #807793 ]
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Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 11:21

smyth260 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 11:19

benv wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 09:55

inverno76 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 10:08

oilfan94 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 09:39

Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 11:18

inverno76 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 09:00

I hate to get negative here with our team waiting to start the WCF, but I truly believe the biggest reason we are where we are right now, comes from Woodcroft and Manson’s coaching (inking these 2 to a deal better be the top priority of the summer). .

And Kane finishing touches….

Holland promoted from within, which was the right call. He better do the right thing again and extend these two.

Holland has still handcuffed this team from re-signing Kane, Kulak and getting a goalie upgrade in the offseason. Here is to hoping Holloway, Skinner and Broberg can take the Bouchard leap next year.





Idgaf about the offseason right now, we’re literally in the middle of Must season. Enjoy the ride, the rest is simply noise to take the focus off. Put up the blinders and LFGOOOOILERS!!!!


This exactly. We all love hockey for the big moments and want to win a cup. We all know that the off-season will eventually come, win or lose. Right now, we are a couple days removed from beating Calgary and are 1 of the last 4 teams left in the NHL witnessing some of the greatest hockey players play the best hockey of their lives. For all the stress the games cause, I'm happy we are here and hope it lasts as long as it can!


You’re both right.

It’s just a new feeling I’m experiencing and I’m not handling it well. Pessimism is hard to shake.

LFFFFFFGGGGG!!




And let's not forget that the win against Calgary means that the Oilers will at best pick 29th at the draft this year. It will be even worse if they do anymore winning. Haven't we been trained to think it's all about the draft position? Come on Oilers get your s**t together.



And a win against Colorado likely triggers the 3rd round pick in the Keith trade becoming a 2nd (as long as he remains in the top 4 defense ice-time).



It’s basically a 3rd at that point. I’d rather see this team play for a cup


Well of course!

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #5) [message #807815 is a reply to message #807789 ]
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benv wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 10:55

inverno76 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 10:08

oilfan94 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 09:39

Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 11:18

inverno76 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 09:00

I hate to get negative here with our team waiting to start the WCF, but I truly believe the biggest reason we are where we are right now, comes from Woodcroft and Manson’s coaching (inking these 2 to a deal better be the top priority of the summer). .

And Kane finishing touches….

Holland promoted from within, which was the right call. He better do the right thing again and extend these two.

Holland has still handcuffed this team from re-signing Kane, Kulak and getting a goalie upgrade in the offseason. Here is to hoping Holloway, Skinner and Broberg can take the Bouchard leap next year.





Idgaf about the offseason right now, we’re literally in the middle of Must season. Enjoy the ride, the rest is simply noise to take the focus off. Put up the blinders and LFGOOOOILERS!!!!


This exactly. We all love hockey for the big moments and want to win a cup. We all know that the off-season will eventually come, win or lose. Right now, we are a couple days removed from beating Calgary and are 1 of the last 4 teams left in the NHL witnessing some of the greatest hockey players play the best hockey of their lives. For all the stress the games cause, I'm happy we are here and hope it lasts as long as it can!


You’re both right.

It’s just a new feeling I’m experiencing and I’m not handling it well. Pessimism is hard to shake.

LFFFFFFGGGGG!!




And let's not forget that the win against Calgary means that the Oilers will at best pick 29th at the draft this year. It will be even worse if they do anymore winning. Haven't we been trained to think it's all about the draft position? Come on Oilers get your s**t together.



I was thinking about this the other day, and about our GM's belief that that pick was untouchable because the Oilers weren't in the top 6 or 7 teams in the league at the time...

Definitely hope that the team makes that look even dumber yet.

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #5) [message #807816 is a reply to message #807815 ]
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Adam wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 21:43

benv wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 10:55

inverno76 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 10:08

oilfan94 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 09:39

Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 11:18

inverno76 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 09:00

I hate to get negative here with our team waiting to start the WCF, but I truly believe the biggest reason we are where we are right now, comes from Woodcroft and Manson’s coaching (inking these 2 to a deal better be the top priority of the summer). .

And Kane finishing touches….

Holland promoted from within, which was the right call. He better do the right thing again and extend these two.

Holland has still handcuffed this team from re-signing Kane, Kulak and getting a goalie upgrade in the offseason. Here is to hoping Holloway, Skinner and Broberg can take the Bouchard leap next year.





Idgaf about the offseason right now, we’re literally in the middle of Must season. Enjoy the ride, the rest is simply noise to take the focus off. Put up the blinders and LFGOOOOILERS!!!!


This exactly. We all love hockey for the big moments and want to win a cup. We all know that the off-season will eventually come, win or lose. Right now, we are a couple days removed from beating Calgary and are 1 of the last 4 teams left in the NHL witnessing some of the greatest hockey players play the best hockey of their lives. For all the stress the games cause, I'm happy we are here and hope it lasts as long as it can!


You’re both right.

It’s just a new feeling I’m experiencing and I’m not handling it well. Pessimism is hard to shake.

LFFFFFFGGGGG!!




And let's not forget that the win against Calgary means that the Oilers will at best pick 29th at the draft this year. It will be even worse if they do anymore winning. Haven't we been trained to think it's all about the draft position? Come on Oilers get your s**t together.



I was thinking about this the other day, and about our GM's belief that that pick was untouchable because the Oilers weren't in the top 6 or 7 teams in the league at the time...

Definitely hope that the team makes that look even dumber yet.


We have an immediate shot while we have Kane right now before he runs off to UFA money. So make the most of where we are and damned be our draft position. If he's gone, I don't think our roster has the same firepower for a deep run like we are on now.

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #5) [message #807821 is a reply to message #807816 ]
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nullterm wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 23:57

Adam wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 21:43

benv wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 10:55

inverno76 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 10:08

oilfan94 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 09:39

Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 11:18

inverno76 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 09:00

I hate to get negative here with our team waiting to start the WCF, but I truly believe the biggest reason we are where we are right now, comes from Woodcroft and Manson’s coaching (inking these 2 to a deal better be the top priority of the summer). .

And Kane finishing touches….

Holland promoted from within, which was the right call. He better do the right thing again and extend these two.

Holland has still handcuffed this team from re-signing Kane, Kulak and getting a goalie upgrade in the offseason. Here is to hoping Holloway, Skinner and Broberg can take the Bouchard leap next year.





Idgaf about the offseason right now, we’re literally in the middle of Must season. Enjoy the ride, the rest is simply noise to take the focus off. Put up the blinders and LFGOOOOILERS!!!!


This exactly. We all love hockey for the big moments and want to win a cup. We all know that the off-season will eventually come, win or lose. Right now, we are a couple days removed from beating Calgary and are 1 of the last 4 teams left in the NHL witnessing some of the greatest hockey players play the best hockey of their lives. For all the stress the games cause, I'm happy we are here and hope it lasts as long as it can!


You’re both right.

It’s just a new feeling I’m experiencing and I’m not handling it well. Pessimism is hard to shake.

LFFFFFFGGGGG!!




And let's not forget that the win against Calgary means that the Oilers will at best pick 29th at the draft this year. It will be even worse if they do anymore winning. Haven't we been trained to think it's all about the draft position? Come on Oilers get your s**t together.



I was thinking about this the other day, and about our GM's belief that that pick was untouchable because the Oilers weren't in the top 6 or 7 teams in the league at the time...

Definitely hope that the team makes that look even dumber yet.


We have an immediate shot while we have Kane right now before he runs off to UFA money. So make the most of where we are and damned be our draft position. If he's gone, I don't think our roster has the same firepower for a deep run like we are on now.


Yup. That first round pick could have got us a better goalie, or a better forward than Brassard.

I’ve been happy with Kulak and don’t think the team has the balls to sit Keith, so defence was always going to stand pat other than that deal - but the other two positions could have used more of a boost. I think it goes to show that even Holland didn’t believe he’d built a team that could make the semi-finals or more.

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #5) [message #807824 is a reply to message #807821 ]
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Adam wrote on Sun, 29 May 2022 22:19

nullterm wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 23:57

Adam wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 21:43

benv wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 10:55

inverno76 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 10:08

oilfan94 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 09:39

Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 11:18

inverno76 wrote on Sat, 28 May 2022 09:00

I hate to get negative here with our team waiting to start the WCF, but I truly believe the biggest reason we are where we are right now, comes from Woodcroft and Manson’s coaching (inking these 2 to a deal better be the top priority of the summer). .

And Kane finishing touches….

Holland promoted from within, which was the right call. He better do the right thing again and extend these two.

Holland has still handcuffed this team from re-signing Kane, Kulak and getting a goalie upgrade in the offseason. Here is to hoping Holloway, Skinner and Broberg can take the Bouchard leap next year.





Idgaf about the offseason right now, we’re literally in the middle of Must season. Enjoy the ride, the rest is simply noise to take the focus off. Put up the blinders and LFGOOOOILERS!!!!


This exactly. We all love hockey for the big moments and want to win a cup. We all know that the off-season will eventually come, win or lose. Right now, we are a couple days removed from beating Calgary and are 1 of the last 4 teams left in the NHL witnessing some of the greatest hockey players play the best hockey of their lives. For all the stress the games cause, I'm happy we are here and hope it lasts as long as it can!


You’re both right.

It’s just a new feeling I’m experiencing and I’m not handling it well. Pessimism is hard to shake.

LFFFFFFGGGGG!!




And let's not forget that the win against Calgary means that the Oilers will at best pick 29th at the draft this year. It will be even worse if they do anymore winning. Haven't we been trained to think it's all about the draft position? Come on Oilers get your s**t together.



I was thinking about this the other day, and about our GM's belief that that pick was untouchable because the Oilers weren't in the top 6 or 7 teams in the league at the time...

Definitely hope that the team makes that look even dumber yet.


We have an immediate shot while we have Kane right now before he runs off to UFA money. So make the most of where we are and damned be our draft position. If he's gone, I don't think our roster has the same firepower for a deep run like we are on now.


Yup. That first round pick could have got us a better goalie


Who's that better goalie that was available?


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