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Nice to see the team pull out a nice win with most of their starting D corps out It actually makes me a bit hopeful that the future of the Oil on D is looking bright...


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Ragnarok73 wrote on Wed, 01 December 2021 23:47

Nice to see the team pull out a nice win with most of their starting D corps out It actually makes me a bit hopeful that the future of the Oil on D is looking bright...


I’d like to think this, but let’s be honest it was Koskinen holding the fort while 14 of the 18 skaters in front of him slept the first 40 minutes of play. The pens dominated the Oilers till the third.

Kassian was a shadow again tonight. If they can con Boston into taking him for Debrusk, do it yesterday.



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Considering the state of the Oilers D, with the guys carrying the mail on the back end, a fantastic outcome.

Oilers let in the one stinker, Hyman withers the turnover at the Pens blue line and his linemates were changing, so bad news there.

Koskinen with another outstanding game, impressive. First goal not at fault, 2nd would have been a beauty save if he would have got across. Had a stretch where he gave up some rebounds but wasn't punished for it.

Big games from Connor & Hyman. 4 points for 97, not a big deal...97 almost looked nauseated by having to score the EN goal and not being able to feed Hyman for the hattie, lol.

I missed the 3rd and 4th Oilers goals, but they made good on the chances on Jary, great looks.

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Just keep finding ways to win, no matter how bad we play for extended periods, or how many injuries.

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I was at the game tonight. It was a fun one. Some thoughts though:

- We got outplayed badly. There were only 3 reasons we won - 1) Koskinen played quite well, 2) McDavid is amazing and 3) Jarry was not good. The Oilers had a couple pretty ones on him, but the first goal was one we'd have been very annoyed about had it been on our guys, and he just barely cracked 80% in save percentage (.810 on the night). He was lucky it wasn't worse with the Hyman disallowed goal, the Hyman short-handed chance that got through his legs but he got just enough of and the Sceviour (or was it Ryan?) shot late off the cross-bar. Jarry is .938 on the season, to having a pretty good rebound campaign, but he was awful tonight.

- McDavid really gets up for match-ups. I think he's been good in almost every game against Crosby. Also - I think he knows when someone passes him on the leader board - it almost always brings a response. Suddenly he's right up on Draisaitl again.

- I didn't love the distribution of ice time from Tippett. Did not think any of the defence played poorly, but Barrie and Russell are not Niedermayer and Pronger, and playing them 26-27 minutes is a recipe for disaster. Just gets them exhausted and means that guys like Niemelainen and Broberg were sitting for long stretches getting cold. With that defence corps, I think you should be a lot closer to even distribution. You could see it hurt the team - they struggled to retrieve the puck and get it up ice throughout a lot of the game. If we have to use this group again, I'd like to see a little more trust from Tippett in the young guys.

- Impressively, with a team-leading 26:53 of ice time, Kris Russell didn't manage a shot on goal. He did set multiple new NHL records, blocking four more shots.

- I was worried about Puljujarvi when he left. Didn't even sit down when he got to the bench. Talked to the trainer and straight down the tunnel. Was relieved to see him come back and get the late assist.

- Poor Hyman, having his first NHL hat trick taken away. Saw on twitter he's now got 12 two-goal games and this would have been his first with three. Again, I hate video replay and think there's no good reason to have it for off-side. I'm okay with human error when it's a fraction of an inch play like that.

In the end, I'm happy to take the points, knowing we stole one. Also, 3-0 without Duncan Keith on the year!



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Great game from the team.. McD rises to the challenge, a true leader.

Man Hyman is a force on puck protection and retrieval, guy is so freaking strong on the puck, Oilers should get him to do instructional workshops with the rest of the team, imagine if they could all hang on to a puck even remotely like him .. the guy's motor never stops for the entire shift, perfect compliment to McD.. :)

Of all the guys that played well tonight, the one that surprised me the most was Lagesson, I kind of lost hope in him, figured he was heading on the path to career AHL'er. But.. he played really solid, very few yips, ended cycles, took the body, stripped pucks, cleared the zone of trouble routinely, I was impressed. He didn't try and force anything that wasn't there, played within his strengths, avoided his weaknesses. Solid D performance. My opinion of him has risen, good to have another D option going forward if we continue to get injuries.

BTW.. absolute beauty hit by K Russell!

Koskinen had another excellent game.. talk of a trade deadline acquisition of a goaltender.. may have been premature! :)

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Take the 2 points and run.

I agree with Skookum Jim - Lagesson actually looked decent. And Niemelainen looked OK too. Broberg was fine as well.

Pretty encouraging to have so many promising guys in the system, and that doesn't even include Samorukov. Who knows, maybe we can build a solid and affordable blueline without mortgaging our future.

That said - we need our guys back. We won't be winning many games like that.



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Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 02:16


Koskinen had another excellent game.. talk of a trade deadline acquisition of a goaltender.. may have been premature! :)


This is how the Smith/Koskinen tandem burns you again and again. They have flashes where you think they look competent...and then the playoff hits and they fall apart again and again. It's basically the Philadelphia Flyers model of goaltending. Take an adequate guy who gets you to the playoffs and wait for the wheels to come off.

Another month of solid play and maybe the Oilers will sign Koskinen to a big extension...eeee...



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Adam wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 08:23

Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 02:16


Koskinen had another excellent game.. talk of a trade deadline acquisition of a goaltender.. may have been premature! :)


This is how the Smith/Koskinen tandem burns you again and again. They have flashes where you think they look competent...and then the playoff hits and they fall apart again and again. It's basically the Philadelphia Flyers model of goaltending. Take an adequate guy who gets you to the playoffs and wait for the wheels to come off.

Another month of solid play and maybe the Oilers will sign Koskinen to a big extension...eeee...


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inverno76 wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 09:27

Adam wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 08:23

Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 02:16


Koskinen had another excellent game.. talk of a trade deadline acquisition of a goaltender.. may have been premature! :)


This is how the Smith/Koskinen tandem burns you again and again. They have flashes where you think they look competent...and then the playoff hits and they fall apart again and again. It's basically the Philadelphia Flyers model of goaltending. Take an adequate guy who gets you to the playoffs and wait for the wheels to come off.

Another month of solid play and maybe the Oilers will sign Koskinen to a big extension...eeee...


Do not even put that out into the universe. If you manifest an extension I will hunt you down.

I don't know man, it would be pretty Oilers to keep what they have and what seems to be working. Dare I say? Boxed checked?



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I am very happy with the result especially given the defense the Oilers had to play. In my opinion, they had
- 1 dman who could play top 4 mins as a #4 on NHL teams in Barrie but defense isn't his strong suit.
- 1 dman in Russell who is probably a #6 on a lot of NHL teams.
- 1 dman in Lagesson who's an NHL tweener and could at best be a#7 at but I am not sure full time.
- 1 rookie dman in Bouchard who's an NHL dman but is going through a real rough patch and should be playing in the 3rd pairing.
- 1 20 yr old rookie to North American hockey in Broberg who looks to have the potential to be a good one but should spend the whole year in the AHL.
- 1 older rooked to North American hockey in Nemo who should be in the AHL the whole year and who knows if he will be an NHLer.

The vet Pens team took advantage of the Oilers defense but Koskinen was up for the task and the Oilers took advantage of their chances.

I thought the Oilers giving Russell that shot blocking award was pretty freaking classy and I am sure it was appreciated by the guys in the room for the team doing that. Whether you like the player or not, I hope the fans in attendance showed the guy some respect.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 09:59

I am very happy with the result especially given the defense the Oilers had to play. In my opinion, they had
- 1 dman who could play top 4 mins as a #4 on NHL teams in Barrie but defense isn't his strong suit.
- 1 dman in Russell who is probably a #6 on a lot of NHL teams.
- 1 dman in Lagesson who's an NHL tweener and could at best be a#7 at but I am not sure full time.
- 1 rookie dman in Bouchard who's an NHL dman but is going through a real rough patch and should be playing in the 3rd pairing.
- 1 20 yr old rookie to North American hockey in Broberg who looks to have the potential to be a good one but should spend the whole year in the AHL.
- 1 older rooked to North American hockey in Nemo who should be in the AHL the whole year and who knows if he will be an NHLer.

The vet Pens team took advantage of the Oilers defense but Koskinen was up for the task and the Oilers took advantage of their chances.

I thought the Oilers giving Russell that shot blocking award was pretty freaking classy and I am sure it was appreciated by the guys in the room for the team doing that. Whether you like the player or not, I hope the fans in attendance showed the guy some respect.


They seemed to be quite appreciative on the broadcast, though I'm sure Adam took the opportunity to use the "facilities" while he was being celebrated fishing



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welcometotheOC wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 10:44

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 09:59

I am very happy with the result especially given the defense the Oilers had to play. In my opinion, they had
- 1 dman who could play top 4 mins as a #4 on NHL teams in Barrie but defense isn't his strong suit.
- 1 dman in Russell who is probably a #6 on a lot of NHL teams.
- 1 dman in Lagesson who's an NHL tweener and could at best be a#7 at but I am not sure full time.
- 1 rookie dman in Bouchard who's an NHL dman but is going through a real rough patch and should be playing in the 3rd pairing.
- 1 20 yr old rookie to North American hockey in Broberg who looks to have the potential to be a good one but should spend the whole year in the AHL.
- 1 older rooked to North American hockey in Nemo who should be in the AHL the whole year and who knows if he will be an NHLer.

The vet Pens team took advantage of the Oilers defense but Koskinen was up for the task and the Oilers took advantage of their chances.

I thought the Oilers giving Russell that shot blocking award was pretty freaking classy and I am sure it was appreciated by the guys in the room for the team doing that. Whether you like the player or not, I hope the fans in attendance showed the guy some respect.


They seemed to be quite appreciative on the broadcast, though I'm sure Adam took the opportunity to use the "facilities" while he was being celebrated fishing


Lowetide went off at the start of his show about all the twitter hate Russell was getting and how low class it was. I am sure some fans tried their best to ruin it. He's by far not a perfect dman and I think his style of dman isn't ideal for the NHL anymore. I know some people think shot blocking is useless, seems most players and coaches think the other way. Regardless, I give the guy huge respect for throwing his body in front of 90+ mile an hour slap shots over 2000 times. I sure as hell wouldn't do that.



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welcometotheOC wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 10:44

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 09:59

I am very happy with the result especially given the defense the Oilers had to play. In my opinion, they had
- 1 dman who could play top 4 mins as a #4 on NHL teams in Barrie but defense isn't his strong suit.
- 1 dman in Russell who is probably a #6 on a lot of NHL teams.
- 1 dman in Lagesson who's an NHL tweener and could at best be a#7 at but I am not sure full time.
- 1 rookie dman in Bouchard who's an NHL dman but is going through a real rough patch and should be playing in the 3rd pairing.
- 1 20 yr old rookie to North American hockey in Broberg who looks to have the potential to be a good one but should spend the whole year in the AHL.
- 1 older rooked to North American hockey in Nemo who should be in the AHL the whole year and who knows if he will be an NHLer.

The vet Pens team took advantage of the Oilers defense but Koskinen was up for the task and the Oilers took advantage of their chances.

I thought the Oilers giving Russell that shot blocking award was pretty freaking classy and I am sure it was appreciated by the guys in the room for the team doing that. Whether you like the player or not, I hope the fans in attendance showed the guy some respect.


They seemed to be quite appreciative on the broadcast, though I'm sure Adam took the opportunity to use the "facilities" while he was being celebrated fishing



He got a standing ovation. I stood and clapped too. Nice for the player to get that recognition, whether it's a dubious honour or not. There was no booing and as far as I saw, no one tried to "ruin it" for him.



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Adam wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 11:25

welcometotheOC wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 10:44

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 09:59

I am very happy with the result especially given the defense the Oilers had to play. In my opinion, they had
- 1 dman who could play top 4 mins as a #4 on NHL teams in Barrie but defense isn't his strong suit.
- 1 dman in Russell who is probably a #6 on a lot of NHL teams.
- 1 dman in Lagesson who's an NHL tweener and could at best be a#7 at but I am not sure full time.
- 1 rookie dman in Bouchard who's an NHL dman but is going through a real rough patch and should be playing in the 3rd pairing.
- 1 20 yr old rookie to North American hockey in Broberg who looks to have the potential to be a good one but should spend the whole year in the AHL.
- 1 older rooked to North American hockey in Nemo who should be in the AHL the whole year and who knows if he will be an NHLer.

The vet Pens team took advantage of the Oilers defense but Koskinen was up for the task and the Oilers took advantage of their chances.

I thought the Oilers giving Russell that shot blocking award was pretty freaking classy and I am sure it was appreciated by the guys in the room for the team doing that. Whether you like the player or not, I hope the fans in attendance showed the guy some respect.


They seemed to be quite appreciative on the broadcast, though I'm sure Adam took the opportunity to use the "facilities" while he was being celebrated fishing



He got a standing ovation. I stood and clapped too. Nice for the player to get that recognition, whether it's a dubious honour or not. There was no booing and as far as I saw, no one tried to "ruin it" for him.


That's good to hear.



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Adam wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 11:25

welcometotheOC wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 10:44

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 09:59

I am very happy with the result especially given the defense the Oilers had to play. In my opinion, they had
- 1 dman who could play top 4 mins as a #4 on NHL teams in Barrie but defense isn't his strong suit.
- 1 dman in Russell who is probably a #6 on a lot of NHL teams.
- 1 dman in Lagesson who's an NHL tweener and could at best be a#7 at but I am not sure full time.
- 1 rookie dman in Bouchard who's an NHL dman but is going through a real rough patch and should be playing in the 3rd pairing.
- 1 20 yr old rookie to North American hockey in Broberg who looks to have the potential to be a good one but should spend the whole year in the AHL.
- 1 older rooked to North American hockey in Nemo who should be in the AHL the whole year and who knows if he will be an NHLer.

The vet Pens team took advantage of the Oilers defense but Koskinen was up for the task and the Oilers took advantage of their chances.

I thought the Oilers giving Russell that shot blocking award was pretty freaking classy and I am sure it was appreciated by the guys in the room for the team doing that. Whether you like the player or not, I hope the fans in attendance showed the guy some respect.


They seemed to be quite appreciative on the broadcast, though I'm sure Adam took the opportunity to use the "facilities" while he was being celebrated fishing



He got a standing ovation. I stood and clapped too. Nice for the player to get that recognition, whether it's a dubious honour or not. There was no booing and as far as I saw, no one tried to "ruin it" for him.

Good for you. Hopefully you weren't one of the guys shredding him on twitter.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 12:10

Adam wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 11:25

welcometotheOC wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 10:44

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 09:59

I am very happy with the result especially given the defense the Oilers had to play. In my opinion, they had
- 1 dman who could play top 4 mins as a #4 on NHL teams in Barrie but defense isn't his strong suit.
- 1 dman in Russell who is probably a #6 on a lot of NHL teams.
- 1 dman in Lagesson who's an NHL tweener and could at best be a#7 at but I am not sure full time.
- 1 rookie dman in Bouchard who's an NHL dman but is going through a real rough patch and should be playing in the 3rd pairing.
- 1 20 yr old rookie to North American hockey in Broberg who looks to have the potential to be a good one but should spend the whole year in the AHL.
- 1 older rooked to North American hockey in Nemo who should be in the AHL the whole year and who knows if he will be an NHLer.

The vet Pens team took advantage of the Oilers defense but Koskinen was up for the task and the Oilers took advantage of their chances.

I thought the Oilers giving Russell that shot blocking award was pretty freaking classy and I am sure it was appreciated by the guys in the room for the team doing that. Whether you like the player or not, I hope the fans in attendance showed the guy some respect.


They seemed to be quite appreciative on the broadcast, though I'm sure Adam took the opportunity to use the "facilities" while he was being celebrated fishing



He got a standing ovation. I stood and clapped too. Nice for the player to get that recognition, whether it's a dubious honour or not. There was no booing and as far as I saw, no one tried to "ruin it" for him.

Good for you. Hopefully you weren't one of the guys shredding him on twitter.


No one sees my twitter, so it really doesn't matter what I say there. It's on total lock down and I rarely tweet.

I don't think that Russell is above criticism, and so unless people are saying offensive things, or tagging him and his family, then I can't really get upset about that. I don't know what the furor is about though, so can't comment on that much.

I think he's a very limited defenceman, and that his limitations are a big part of why he's not the block record holder. He's still an Oiler though and I don't cheer against him, even if I think the team probably should have cut bait there long ago.



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Adam wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 13:39

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 12:10

Adam wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 11:25

welcometotheOC wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 10:44

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 09:59

I am very happy with the result especially given the defense the Oilers had to play. In my opinion, they had
- 1 dman who could play top 4 mins as a #4 on NHL teams in Barrie but defense isn't his strong suit.
- 1 dman in Russell who is probably a #6 on a lot of NHL teams.
- 1 dman in Lagesson who's an NHL tweener and could at best be a#7 at but I am not sure full time.
- 1 rookie dman in Bouchard who's an NHL dman but is going through a real rough patch and should be playing in the 3rd pairing.
- 1 20 yr old rookie to North American hockey in Broberg who looks to have the potential to be a good one but should spend the whole year in the AHL.
- 1 older rooked to North American hockey in Nemo who should be in the AHL the whole year and who knows if he will be an NHLer.

The vet Pens team took advantage of the Oilers defense but Koskinen was up for the task and the Oilers took advantage of their chances.

I thought the Oilers giving Russell that shot blocking award was pretty freaking classy and I am sure it was appreciated by the guys in the room for the team doing that. Whether you like the player or not, I hope the fans in attendance showed the guy some respect.


They seemed to be quite appreciative on the broadcast, though I'm sure Adam took the opportunity to use the "facilities" while he was being celebrated fishing



He got a standing ovation. I stood and clapped too. Nice for the player to get that recognition, whether it's a dubious honour or not. There was no booing and as far as I saw, no one tried to "ruin it" for him.

Good for you. Hopefully you weren't one of the guys shredding him on twitter.


No one sees my twitter, so it really doesn't matter what I say there. It's on total lock down and I rarely tweet.

I don't think that Russell is above criticism, and so unless people are saying offensive things, or tagging him and his family, then I can't really get upset about that. I don't know what the furor is about though, so can't comment on that much.

I think he's a very limited defenceman, and that his limitations are a big part of why he's not the block record holder. He's still an Oiler though and I don't cheer against him, even if I think the team probably should have cut bait there long ago.


Cut bait at the previous price point, sure, there wasn't anything that would really justify that deal. They could do worse at $1.25 mil, now.




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Adam wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 13:39

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 12:10

Adam wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 11:25

welcometotheOC wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 10:44

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 09:59

I am very happy with the result especially given the defense the Oilers had to play. In my opinion, they had
- 1 dman who could play top 4 mins as a #4 on NHL teams in Barrie but defense isn't his strong suit.
- 1 dman in Russell who is probably a #6 on a lot of NHL teams.
- 1 dman in Lagesson who's an NHL tweener and could at best be a#7 at but I am not sure full time.
- 1 rookie dman in Bouchard who's an NHL dman but is going through a real rough patch and should be playing in the 3rd pairing.
- 1 20 yr old rookie to North American hockey in Broberg who looks to have the potential to be a good one but should spend the whole year in the AHL.
- 1 older rooked to North American hockey in Nemo who should be in the AHL the whole year and who knows if he will be an NHLer.

The vet Pens team took advantage of the Oilers defense but Koskinen was up for the task and the Oilers took advantage of their chances.

I thought the Oilers giving Russell that shot blocking award was pretty freaking classy and I am sure it was appreciated by the guys in the room for the team doing that. Whether you like the player or not, I hope the fans in attendance showed the guy some respect.


They seemed to be quite appreciative on the broadcast, though I'm sure Adam took the opportunity to use the "facilities" while he was being celebrated fishing



He got a standing ovation. I stood and clapped too. Nice for the player to get that recognition, whether it's a dubious honour or not. There was no booing and as far as I saw, no one tried to "ruin it" for him.

Good for you. Hopefully you weren't one of the guys shredding him on twitter.


No one sees my twitter, so it really doesn't matter what I say there. It's on total lock down and I rarely tweet.

I don't think that Russell is above criticism, and so unless people are saying offensive things, or tagging him and his family, then I can't really get upset about that. I don't know what the furor is about though, so can't comment on that much.

I think he's a very limited defenceman, and that his limitations are a big part of why he's not the block record holder. He's still an Oiler though and I don't cheer against him, even if I think the team probably should have cut bait there long ago.

There is a time and place for criticizing a player but ripping a guy on a night where he is getting award for sacrificing for his team when his wife and kids are there is pretty classless in my opinion.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 13:55

Adam wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 13:39

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 12:10

Adam wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 11:25

welcometotheOC wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 10:44

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 09:59

I am very happy with the result especially given the defense the Oilers had to play. In my opinion, they had
- 1 dman who could play top 4 mins as a #4 on NHL teams in Barrie but defense isn't his strong suit.
- 1 dman in Russell who is probably a #6 on a lot of NHL teams.
- 1 dman in Lagesson who's an NHL tweener and could at best be a#7 at but I am not sure full time.
- 1 rookie dman in Bouchard who's an NHL dman but is going through a real rough patch and should be playing in the 3rd pairing.
- 1 20 yr old rookie to North American hockey in Broberg who looks to have the potential to be a good one but should spend the whole year in the AHL.
- 1 older rooked to North American hockey in Nemo who should be in the AHL the whole year and who knows if he will be an NHLer.

The vet Pens team took advantage of the Oilers defense but Koskinen was up for the task and the Oilers took advantage of their chances.

I thought the Oilers giving Russell that shot blocking award was pretty freaking classy and I am sure it was appreciated by the guys in the room for the team doing that. Whether you like the player or not, I hope the fans in attendance showed the guy some respect.


They seemed to be quite appreciative on the broadcast, though I'm sure Adam took the opportunity to use the "facilities" while he was being celebrated fishing



He got a standing ovation. I stood and clapped too. Nice for the player to get that recognition, whether it's a dubious honour or not. There was no booing and as far as I saw, no one tried to "ruin it" for him.

Good for you. Hopefully you weren't one of the guys shredding him on twitter.


No one sees my twitter, so it really doesn't matter what I say there. It's on total lock down and I rarely tweet.

I don't think that Russell is above criticism, and so unless people are saying offensive things, or tagging him and his family, then I can't really get upset about that. I don't know what the furor is about though, so can't comment on that much.

I think he's a very limited defenceman, and that his limitations are a big part of why he's not the block record holder. He's still an Oiler though and I don't cheer against him, even if I think the team probably should have cut bait there long ago.

There is a time and place for criticizing a player but ripping a guy on a night where he is getting award for sacrificing for his team when his wife and kids are there is pretty classless in my opinion.


If he was booed in the building or heckled somehow where it could be heard, sure, that's classless. I dont think the players give much of a crap for the amateur internet commentators and what's being said, they're just damaging the sensitivities of other internet people, pretty much.



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K.McC#24 wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 14:04

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 13:55

Adam wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 13:39

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 12:10

Adam wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 11:25

welcometotheOC wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 10:44

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 09:59

I am very happy with the result especially given the defense the Oilers had to play. In my opinion, they had
- 1 dman who could play top 4 mins as a #4 on NHL teams in Barrie but defense isn't his strong suit.
- 1 dman in Russell who is probably a #6 on a lot of NHL teams.
- 1 dman in Lagesson who's an NHL tweener and could at best be a#7 at but I am not sure full time.
- 1 rookie dman in Bouchard who's an NHL dman but is going through a real rough patch and should be playing in the 3rd pairing.
- 1 20 yr old rookie to North American hockey in Broberg who looks to have the potential to be a good one but should spend the whole year in the AHL.
- 1 older rooked to North American hockey in Nemo who should be in the AHL the whole year and who knows if he will be an NHLer.

The vet Pens team took advantage of the Oilers defense but Koskinen was up for the task and the Oilers took advantage of their chances.

I thought the Oilers giving Russell that shot blocking award was pretty freaking classy and I am sure it was appreciated by the guys in the room for the team doing that. Whether you like the player or not, I hope the fans in attendance showed the guy some respect.


They seemed to be quite appreciative on the broadcast, though I'm sure Adam took the opportunity to use the "facilities" while he was being celebrated fishing



He got a standing ovation. I stood and clapped too. Nice for the player to get that recognition, whether it's a dubious honour or not. There was no booing and as far as I saw, no one tried to "ruin it" for him.

Good for you. Hopefully you weren't one of the guys shredding him on twitter.


No one sees my twitter, so it really doesn't matter what I say there. It's on total lock down and I rarely tweet.

I don't think that Russell is above criticism, and so unless people are saying offensive things, or tagging him and his family, then I can't really get upset about that. I don't know what the furor is about though, so can't comment on that much.

I think he's a very limited defenceman, and that his limitations are a big part of why he's not the block record holder. He's still an Oiler though and I don't cheer against him, even if I think the team probably should have cut bait there long ago.

There is a time and place for criticizing a player but ripping a guy on a night where he is getting award for sacrificing for his team when his wife and kids are there is pretty classless in my opinion.


If he was booed in the building or heckled somehow where it could be heard, sure, that's classless. I dont think the players give much of a crap for the amateur internet commentators and what's being said, they're just damaging the sensitivities of other internet people, pretty much.



Also - since Russell was playing hockey at the time, I doubt he was paying any heed to any twitter hate. It seems unlikely he was doom-scrolling himself between shifts. Niemelainen might have had time to do that, but Russell was on the ice almost half the game, so his internet usage was probably way lower than usual.



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Adam wrote on Fri, 03 December 2021 09:27

K.McC#24 wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 14:04

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 13:55

Adam wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 13:39

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 12:10

Adam wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 11:25

welcometotheOC wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 10:44

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 09:59

I am very happy with the result especially given the defense the Oilers had to play. In my opinion, they had
- 1 dman who could play top 4 mins as a #4 on NHL teams in Barrie but defense isn't his strong suit.
- 1 dman in Russell who is probably a #6 on a lot of NHL teams.
- 1 dman in Lagesson who's an NHL tweener and could at best be a#7 at but I am not sure full time.
- 1 rookie dman in Bouchard who's an NHL dman but is going through a real rough patch and should be playing in the 3rd pairing.
- 1 20 yr old rookie to North American hockey in Broberg who looks to have the potential to be a good one but should spend the whole year in the AHL.
- 1 older rooked to North American hockey in Nemo who should be in the AHL the whole year and who knows if he will be an NHLer.

The vet Pens team took advantage of the Oilers defense but Koskinen was up for the task and the Oilers took advantage of their chances.

I thought the Oilers giving Russell that shot blocking award was pretty freaking classy and I am sure it was appreciated by the guys in the room for the team doing that. Whether you like the player or not, I hope the fans in attendance showed the guy some respect.


They seemed to be quite appreciative on the broadcast, though I'm sure Adam took the opportunity to use the "facilities" while he was being celebrated fishing



He got a standing ovation. I stood and clapped too. Nice for the player to get that recognition, whether it's a dubious honour or not. There was no booing and as far as I saw, no one tried to "ruin it" for him.

Good for you. Hopefully you weren't one of the guys shredding him on twitter.


No one sees my twitter, so it really doesn't matter what I say there. It's on total lock down and I rarely tweet.

I don't think that Russell is above criticism, and so unless people are saying offensive things, or tagging him and his family, then I can't really get upset about that. I don't know what the furor is about though, so can't comment on that much.

I think he's a very limited defenceman, and that his limitations are a big part of why he's not the block record holder. He's still an Oiler though and I don't cheer against him, even if I think the team probably should have cut bait there long ago.

There is a time and place for criticizing a player but ripping a guy on a night where he is getting award for sacrificing for his team when his wife and kids are there is pretty classless in my opinion.


If he was booed in the building or heckled somehow where it could be heard, sure, that's classless. I dont think the players give much of a crap for the amateur internet commentators and what's being said, they're just damaging the sensitivities of other internet people, pretty much.



Also - since Russell was playing hockey at the time, I doubt he was paying any heed to any twitter hate. It seems unlikely he was doom-scrolling himself between shifts. Niemelainen might have had time to do that, but Russell was on the ice almost half the game, so his internet usage was probably way lower than usual.

I think you are totally missing the point. I don't think Russell or anyone brings their phone on the bench to scroll twitter or is in the dressing room checking out the haters during the game. The guy was being honored for sacrificing his body for the team. Maybe you or any of the haters don't value shot blocking and think its a joke but for whatever reason whether you agree with it or not, players and coaches think it's important. You watch them on the bench when a big block happens and you will see guys including the stars cheering, slamming their hands on the boards in recognition, goalies going up to guys a pat, yelling encouragement at him. Maybe all the players and coaches are a bunch of idiots for thinking blocks are important but they do. So for 1 day, it wouldn't have killed the haters to take a night off from carving the guy. Doesn't mean you approve of the guy, doesn't mean you are any less of a hater, it's 1 day to give a hat tip for a guy who no one will say he isn't willing to sacrifice his body for the team and there is some honor in that.



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I think you are totally missing the point. I don't think Russell or anyone brings their phone on the bench to scroll twitter or is in the dressing room checking out the haters during the game. The guy was being honored for sacrificing his body for the team. Maybe you or any of the haters don't value shot blocking and think its a joke but for whatever reason whether you agree with it or not, players and coaches think it's important. You watch them on the bench when a big block happens and you will see guys including the stars cheering, slamming their hands on the boards in recognition, goalies going up to guys a pat, yelling encouragement at him. Maybe all the players and coaches are a bunch of idiots for thinking blocks are important but they do. So for 1 day, it wouldn't have killed the haters to take a night off from carving the guy. Doesn't mean you approve of the guy, doesn't mean you are any less of a hater, it's 1 day to give a hat tip for a guy who no one will say he isn't willing to sacrifice his body for the team and there is some honor in that.


If you think you're ever going to get everyone on the internet to put down their weapons and stop bickering about anything, you're dreaming. People are going to say what they want, and if they're not tagging him or his family directly to spew vitriol, then let people do what they're going to do. You may as well try to fight the tides in the ocean.

I do believe that there's a value in shot blocking - but I also think if you're always blocking shots, then you're probably doing something wrong. You don't want to be defending all the time - that's a bad sign, because it suggests your team struggles to get and maintain possession when you're on the ice. Because he's not great at controlled possession at all, Russell is defending too much of the time - which is why he finds himself so often playing target practice for other team's shooters.

I also believe that Russell gives up the blue line too easily in order to try to better position himself for blocks. That allows opposition players more time in our zone and more opportunities to score from better positions.

Finally, I think his preference for blocking sometimes takes him out of position. If he doesn't make the block, or if the other player fakes the shot, he can be a non-factor on the play because he so often puts himself on the ground. That leaves him unable to retrieve rebounds, or tie up attackers.

Blocks take courage, and they hurt. I am pretty certain I broke a bone in my foot in one of the Heckle games (totally worth it - we won in OT on a goal I set up) so I can tell you first hand, it's not an easy thing to do. The question with Russell has never been courage, nor whether it's good that he blocks shots. The question is why he's blocking so many and whether that's in big part due to deficiencies in his game. There's considerable evidence to suggest that's the case.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 02 December 2021 08:59

I am very happy with the result especially given the defense the Oilers had to play. In my opinion, they had
- 1 dman who could play top 4 mins as a #4 on NHL teams in Barrie but defense isn't his strong suit.
- 1 dman in Russell who is probably a #6 on a lot of NHL teams.
- 1 dman in Lagesson who's an NHL tweener and could at best be a#7 at but I am not sure full time.
- 1 rookie dman in Bouchard who's an NHL dman but is going through a real rough patch and should be playing in the 3rd pairing.
- 1 20 yr old rookie to North American hockey in Broberg who looks to have the potential to be a good one but should spend the whole year in the AHL.
- 1 older rooked to North American hockey in Nemo who should be in the AHL the whole year and who knows if he will be an NHLer.



Actually Russell is #6 on this team .. he used to play as a #4, but can't do it now..
but on another team he could.. except Boston, for sure, and an assortment of other teams.. Philly, LA, Montreal, Detroit, TB, Leafs, Ottawa, and NJ














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One hell of a night for Russell and the team. Classy of the Oilers to pay him respects for that honor! Then you know he was feeling it when he laid out that awesome hit! What a win!


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From podcasts and the interviews I’ve read, it sounds like most players stay away from the comment sections and it’s highly recommended to look the other way. Either you believe the positive hype and you lose your drive, or you eat up the negative crap and become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

A select group of people will always go too far. You can be critical of their play, but stay classy.

That being said and it doesn’t really even happen here, fan forums can be a bit more risqué. If a player is searching out HF Forums, he deserves what he gets.



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