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 Re: Pregame: Montreal @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #772628 is a reply to message #772516 ]
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This game also on TSN2, for those who aren’t a fan of Jack.

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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 18 January 2021 15:28

This game also on TSN2, for those who aren’t a fan of Jack.

I’m JACKED for Jack. Fwiw.

Oh nice. One thing I think I'm going to miss this year is watching the opposing team's feed to get a different perspective on the club. Except for Vancouver's duo. They're awful.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 18 January 2021 16:32

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 18 January 2021 15:28

This game also on TSN2, for those who aren’t a fan of Jack.

I’m JACKED for Jack. Fwiw.

Oh nice. One thing I think I'm going to miss this year is watching the opposing team's feed to get a different perspective on the club. Except for Vancouver's duo. They're awful.


Have to add Rick Ball (who isn’t terrible!) and his (terrible) broadcasting partner Cassie PC.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 18 January 2021 16:32

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 18 January 2021 15:28

This game also on TSN2, for those who aren’t a fan of Jack.

I’m JACKED for Jack. Fwiw.

Oh nice. One thing I think I'm going to miss this year is watching the opposing team's feed to get a different perspective on the club. Except for Vancouver's duo. They're awful.


100% agree. I always watched the opposition broadcast unless there was a god awful pair on that side.



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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 18 January 2021 15:28

This game also on TSN2, for those who aren’t a fan of Jack.

I’m JACKED for Jack. Fwiw.


It'll be blacked out unless you are in the Habs viewing region.

You might find a quasi-legal way to watch in the dark recesses of the internet.



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 Re: Pregame: Montreal @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #772633 is a reply to message #772632 ]
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NetBOG wrote on Mon, 18 January 2021 16:46

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 18 January 2021 15:28

This game also on TSN2, for those who aren’t a fan of Jack.

I’m JACKED for Jack. Fwiw.


It'll be blacked out unless you are in the Habs viewing region.

You might find a quasi-legal way to watch in the dark recesses of the internet.


What!!! C’mon cable companies. Doesn’t pain me, as a Jack fan, but c’mon!



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 Re: Pregame: Montreal @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #772640 is a reply to message #772633 ]
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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 18 January 2021 15:55

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 18 January 2021 16:46

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 18 January 2021 15:28

This game also on TSN2, for those who aren’t a fan of Jack.

I’m JACKED for Jack. Fwiw.


It'll be blacked out unless you are in the Habs viewing region.

You might find a quasi-legal way to watch in the dark recesses of the internet.


What!!! C’mon cable companies. Doesn’t pain me, as a Jack fan, but c’mon!

That's on the NHL and their absurd regional broadcasting system. Although I do wonder if SNET and TSN would agree to show games in each other's off markets if they could. They both act like protectionist companies, imo.

Anyway, it's more important that the NHL and media companies protect what little they can cling on to and never try to make their product better to expand naturally.



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 Re: Pregame: Montreal @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #772645 is a reply to message #772640 ]
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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 18 January 2021 17:36

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 18 January 2021 15:55

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 18 January 2021 16:46

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 18 January 2021 15:28

This game also on TSN2, for those who aren’t a fan of Jack.

I’m JACKED for Jack. Fwiw.


It'll be blacked out unless you are in the Habs viewing region.

You might find a quasi-legal way to watch in the dark recesses of the internet.


What!!! C’mon cable companies. Doesn’t pain me, as a Jack fan, but c’mon!

That's on the NHL and their absurd regional broadcasting system. Although I do wonder if SNET and TSN would agree to show games in each other's off markets if they could. They both act like protectionist companies, imo.

Anyway, it's more important that the NHL and media companies protect what little they can cling on to and never try to make their product better to expand naturally.


or, Sportsnet pays the Oilers millions for the right to exclusively broadcast regional Oilers games in the Oilers region (as with TSN and the Habs), and that investment is being protected. Its not like you can't watch the Oilers game.



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 Re: Pregame: Montreal @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #772651 is a reply to message #772645 ]
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NetBOG wrote on Mon, 18 January 2021 18:33

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 18 January 2021 17:36

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 18 January 2021 15:55

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 18 January 2021 16:46

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 18 January 2021 15:28

This game also on TSN2, for those who aren’t a fan of Jack.

I’m JACKED for Jack. Fwiw.


It'll be blacked out unless you are in the Habs viewing region.

You might find a quasi-legal way to watch in the dark recesses of the internet.


What!!! C’mon cable companies. Doesn’t pain me, as a Jack fan, but c’mon!

That's on the NHL and their absurd regional broadcasting system. Although I do wonder if SNET and TSN would agree to show games in each other's off markets if they could. They both act like protectionist companies, imo.

Anyway, it's more important that the NHL and media companies protect what little they can cling on to and never try to make their product better to expand naturally.


or, Sportsnet pays the Oilers millions for the right to exclusively broadcast regional Oilers games in the Oilers region (as with TSN and the Habs), and that investment is being protected. Its not like you can't watch the Oilers game.

I get it, but in the same vein Sportsnet could benefit if our Vancouver friends were allowed to watch regionally locked games. The problem with exclusive rights, and any monopoly, is producing quality is no longer a concern and protectionism starts to stifle the consumer. You know, like how we get to watch 2 NFL games Sunday mornings on 17 different channels.



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 Re: Pregame: Montreal @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #772702 is a reply to message #772651 ]
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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 18 January 2021 19:12

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 18 January 2021 18:33

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 18 January 2021 17:36

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 18 January 2021 15:55

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 18 January 2021 16:46

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 18 January 2021 15:28

This game also on TSN2, for those who aren’t a fan of Jack.

I’m JACKED for Jack. Fwiw.


It'll be blacked out unless you are in the Habs viewing region.

You might find a quasi-legal way to watch in the dark recesses of the internet.


What!!! C’mon cable companies. Doesn’t pain me, as a Jack fan, but c’mon!

That's on the NHL and their absurd regional broadcasting system. Although I do wonder if SNET and TSN would agree to show games in each other's off markets if they could. They both act like protectionist companies, imo.

Anyway, it's more important that the NHL and media companies protect what little they can cling on to and never try to make their product better to expand naturally.


or, Sportsnet pays the Oilers millions for the right to exclusively broadcast regional Oilers games in the Oilers region (as with TSN and the Habs), and that investment is being protected. Its not like you can't watch the Oilers game.

I get it, but in the same vein Sportsnet could benefit if our Vancouver friends were allowed to watch regionally locked games. The problem with exclusive rights, and any monopoly, is producing quality is no longer a concern and protectionism starts to stifle the consumer. You know, like how we get to watch 2 NFL games Sunday mornings on 17 different channels.


All sports have TV deals that finance significant portions of their budget.

I understand it's frustrating that fans who are out of market but still within Canada have to buy both a local cable subscription plus a league-wide package, but that happens because the national and regional contracts are different entities and both rightsholders have to be protected. Could the league structure those deals different to allow for one package to cover all? Sure, but the league likes you paying twice. Make no mistake, it's the league making the rules.

As for quality, thats is something the league and broadcasters have to police, at the risk of losing paying customers. Bad commentators (Quinn, Remenda) or bad technical quality (picture and sound of Flames broadcasts is horrid) need to be fixed.

The football thing is different. From everything I understand, Bell has the ability to show any game on any channel. They have 7 of their own channels on top of the US channels showing the games. They just aren't showing the games they already have the rights to.



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 Re: Pregame: Montreal @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #772716 is a reply to message #772702 ]
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NetBOG wrote on Mon, 18 January 2021 20:40


All sports have TV deals that finance significant portions of their budget.

I understand it's frustrating that fans who are out of market but still within Canada have to buy both a local cable subscription plus a league-wide package, but that happens because the national and regional contracts are different entities and both rightsholders have to be protected. Could the league structure those deals different to allow for one package to cover all? Sure, but the league likes you paying twice. Make no mistake, it's the league making the rules.

As for quality, thats is something the league and broadcasters have to police, at the risk of losing paying customers. Bad commentators (Quinn, Remenda) or bad technical quality (picture and sound of Flames broadcasts is horrid) need to be fixed.

The football thing is different. From everything I understand, Bell has the ability to show any game on any channel. They have 7 of their own channels on top of the US channels showing the games. They just aren't showing the games they already have the rights to.

Leagues like their fans paying twice (or three times if they go to games) but a growing number of fans aren't paying at all. I don't pay for cable because I don't get good value for it. Maybe leagues and governments can play whack-a-mole with alternative suppliers of entertainment, but I have my doubts. Cable subscription rates continue to decline, leagues would be smart if they understood this and tried to figure out another path forward. I doubt they will until it's too late, they're beholden to they exclusive contracts seen by an increasingly small number of people.



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