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 Kyle Turris an Oiler, 2 years @ 1.65AAV [message #768020]
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This just in from the Oilers team twitter page.

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1.65 per, per Shaugger

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 Re: Kyle Turris an Oiler, 2 years [message #768021 is a reply to message #768020 ]
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Oscargasm wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:00

This just in from the Oilers team twitter page

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SN saying 1.65M AAV, 2 years

Hard to really complain about that AAV. If he ends up playing wing, so be it. He should help a 2nd PP unit. It's kind of a Gagner replacement in the lineup. Turris should produce more than Gagner did though.

I have a hard time imagining he fills the 3C role that some want, a guy that can be depended on for defensive assignments. That's just not the kind of player he is.

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Great AAV. I would have thought more than 2.


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 Re: Kyle Turris an Oiler, 2 years [message #768025 is a reply to message #768021 ]
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I like this signing. 1.65 mill for a right handed, 3rd line center. He skates well and has skill and he should have game left.


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 Re: Kyle Turris an Oiler, 2 years @ 1.65 per season [message #768027 is a reply to message #768020 ]
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Like this signing a lot. The AAV is low enough that he should be able to provide value for it even if he isn't the player he once was. The term is low enough that there are outs if it doesn't work out.

Low risk, decent reward signing.



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 Re: Kyle Turris an Oiler, 2 years @ 1.65 per season [message #768075 is a reply to message #768027 ]
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mightyreasoner wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 10:12

Like this signing a lot. The AAV is low enough that he should be able to provide value for it even if he isn't the player he once was. The term is low enough that there are outs if it doesn't work out.

Low risk, decent reward signing.



And.. AAV low enough that its even tradable within the next two years.



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 Re: Kyle Turris an Oiler, 2 years @ 1.65 per season [message #768028 is a reply to message #768020 ]
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The cap hit is great. There are better options out there, so I just hope they don't use the money saved here on not getting a better 3C and give Markstrom a stupid contract.


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 Re: Kyle Turris an Oiler, 2 years @ 1.65 per season [message #768040 is a reply to message #768028 ]
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Goose wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:17

The cap hit is great. There are better options out there, so I just hope they don't use the money saved here on not getting a better 3C and give Markstrom a stupid contract.

Who do you think is better?



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 Re: Kyle Turris an Oiler, 2 years @ 1.65 per season [message #768044 is a reply to message #768040 ]
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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 14:26

Goose wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:17

The cap hit is great. There are better options out there, so I just hope they don't use the money saved here on not getting a better 3C and give Markstrom a stupid contract.

Who do you think is better?

I believe Khudobin has similar numbers (smaller sample size though) and should be far cheaper.



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 Re: Kyle Turris an Oiler, 2 years @ 1.65 per season [message #768047 is a reply to message #768044 ]
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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:31

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 14:26

Goose wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:17

The cap hit is great. There are better options out there, so I just hope they don't use the money saved here on not getting a better 3C and give Markstrom a stupid contract.

Who do you think is better?

I believe Khudobin has similar numbers (smaller sample size though) and should be far cheaper.

I was asking who he thinks is better as a 3C than Turris.



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 Re: Kyle Turris an Oiler, 2 years @ 1.65 per season [message #768048 is a reply to message #768047 ]
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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:33

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:31

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 14:26

Goose wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:17

The cap hit is great. There are better options out there, so I just hope they don't use the money saved here on not getting a better 3C and give Markstrom a stupid contract.

Who do you think is better?

I believe Khudobin has similar numbers (smaller sample size though) and should be far cheaper.

I was asking who he thinks is better as a 3C than Turris.


Khudobin is way worse than Turris at 3C. I don't think he's EVER won a face-off.



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 Re: Kyle Turris an Oiler, 2 years @ 1.65 per season [message #768056 is a reply to message #768048 ]
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Adam wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:34

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:33

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:31

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 14:26

Goose wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:17

The cap hit is great. There are better options out there, so I just hope they don't use the money saved here on not getting a better 3C and give Markstrom a stupid contract.

Who do you think is better?

I believe Khudobin has similar numbers (smaller sample size though) and should be far cheaper.

I was asking who he thinks is better as a 3C than Turris.


Khudobin is way worse than Turris at 3C. I don't think he's EVER won a face-off.

I would be worried about Khudobin's skating as a 3rd line center having to move around the ice with goalie gear on.



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 Re: Kyle Turris an Oiler, 2 years @ 1.65 per season [message #768060 is a reply to message #768056 ]
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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 13:38

Adam wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:34

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:33

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:31

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 14:26

Goose wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:17

The cap hit is great. There are better options out there, so I just hope they don't use the money saved here on not getting a better 3C and give Markstrom a stupid contract.

Who do you think is better?

I believe Khudobin has similar numbers (smaller sample size though) and should be far cheaper.

I was asking who he thinks is better as a 3C than Turris.


Khudobin is way worse than Turris at 3C. I don't think he's EVER won a face-off.

I would be worried about Khudobin's skating as a 3rd line center having to move around the ice with goalie gear on.

He would be a great penalty killer though. Probably better at shot blocking than Russell.



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 Re: Kyle Turris an Oiler, 2 years @ 1.65 per season [message #768062 is a reply to message #768060 ]
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oilfan94 wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:40

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 13:38

Adam wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:34

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:33

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:31

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 14:26

Goose wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:17

The cap hit is great. There are better options out there, so I just hope they don't use the money saved here on not getting a better 3C and give Markstrom a stupid contract.

Who do you think is better?

I believe Khudobin has similar numbers (smaller sample size though) and should be far cheaper.

I was asking who he thinks is better as a 3C than Turris.


Khudobin is way worse than Turris at 3C. I don't think he's EVER won a face-off.

I would be worried about Khudobin's skating as a 3rd line center having to move around the ice with goalie gear on.

He would be a great penalty killer though. Probably better at shot blocking than Russell.

Might have Russell pushing him out of the way out of jealousy if he's stealing some of Russell's blocks.



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 Re: Kyle Turris an Oiler, 2 years @ 1.65 per season [message #768132 is a reply to message #768056 ]
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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:38

Adam wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:34

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:33

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:31

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 14:26

Goose wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:17

The cap hit is great. There are better options out there, so I just hope they don't use the money saved here on not getting a better 3C and give Markstrom a stupid contract.

Who do you think is better?

I believe Khudobin has similar numbers (smaller sample size though) and should be far cheaper.

I was asking who he thinks is better as a 3C than Turris.


Khudobin is way worse than Turris at 3C. I don't think he's EVER won a face-off.

I would be worried about Khudobin's skating as a 3rd line center having to move around the ice with goalie gear on.


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 Re: Kyle Turris an Oiler, 2 years @ 1.65 per season [message #768104 is a reply to message #768040 ]
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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 10:26

Goose wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:17

The cap hit is great. There are better options out there, so I just hope they don't use the money saved here on not getting a better 3C and give Markstrom a stupid contract.

Who do you think is better?


For 3C, I think the Oilers need someone that doesn't get them killed in terms of goal differential (with McDavid and Drai, the 3C just needs to be close to even and everything is good). They also should be able to PK so that Nuge and Drai don't have to do it as much. Kyle Turris' 5x5 GF% has not been good the last few years, and that's with Nashville, which is even worse. And he doesn't PK.

Based on that criteria, in terms of FA, I think that Koivu or Soderberg would be better in this spot.

Woodguy went into a deep dive on these players and a bunch more on his blog, which is where I got most of my data from. https://becauseoilers.blogspot.com/

Woodguy also really likes Johann Larsson, but i'm not sure that his last season wasn't just a one off.



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 Re: Kyle Turris an Oiler, 2 years @ 1.65 per season [message #768123 is a reply to message #768104 ]
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Goose wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 12:56

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 10:26

Goose wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:17

The cap hit is great. There are better options out there, so I just hope they don't use the money saved here on not getting a better 3C and give Markstrom a stupid contract.

Who do you think is better?


For 3C, I think the Oilers need someone that doesn't get them killed in terms of goal differential (with McDavid and Drai, the 3C just needs to be close to even and everything is good). They also should be able to PK so that Nuge and Drai don't have to do it as much. Kyle Turris' 5x5 GF% has not been good the last few years, and that's with Nashville, which is even worse. And he doesn't PK.

Based on that criteria, in terms of FA, I think that Koivu or Soderberg would be better in this spot.

Woodguy went into a deep dive on these players and a bunch more on his blog, which is where I got most of my data from. https://becauseoilers.blogspot.com/

Woodguy also really likes Johann Larsson, but i'm not sure that his last season wasn't just a one off.

Turris wasn't a fit in Nashville, he was great in Ottawa.

I saw lots of what woodguy said and I can appreciate where he is coming from and the value he puts in all his advanced stats. But Larsson is a left handed center that has scored 10 goals once and this past season had 6 goals and 18 its in 62 games. That' an 8 goal, 24 pt pace. He's 28 so he is what he is. I don't see how that screams 3rd line center.

Koivu is going to be 38 yrs old and is slow and had 4 goals and 21 its last year. I don't see how bringing in a guy that old and slow helps you when you need more speed on your team.




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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 13:18

Goose wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 12:56

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 10:26

Goose wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:17

The cap hit is great. There are better options out there, so I just hope they don't use the money saved here on not getting a better 3C and give Markstrom a stupid contract.

Who do you think is better?


For 3C, I think the Oilers need someone that doesn't get them killed in terms of goal differential (with McDavid and Drai, the 3C just needs to be close to even and everything is good). They also should be able to PK so that Nuge and Drai don't have to do it as much. Kyle Turris' 5x5 GF% has not been good the last few years, and that's with Nashville, which is even worse. And he doesn't PK.

Based on that criteria, in terms of FA, I think that Koivu or Soderberg would be better in this spot.

Woodguy went into a deep dive on these players and a bunch more on his blog, which is where I got most of my data from. https://becauseoilers.blogspot.com/

Woodguy also really likes Johann Larsson, but i'm not sure that his last season wasn't just a one off.

Turris wasn't a fit in Nashville, he was great in Ottawa.

I saw lots of what woodguy said and I can appreciate where he is coming from and the value he puts in all his advanced stats. But Larsson is a left handed center that has scored 10 goals once and this past season had 6 goals and 18 its in 62 games. That' an 8 goal, 24 pt pace. He's 28 so he is what he is. I don't see how that screams 3rd line center.

Koivu is going to be 38 yrs old and is slow and had 4 goals and 21 its last year. I don't see how bringing in a guy that old and slow helps you when you need more speed on your team.




The issue I see is how you really don't want Turris playing against good players. So, if our intention is that Turris is our 3rd line C, Tippett is locked into needing to ensure McDavid and Drai are always getting the tough defensive assignments. Turris can't kill penalties at all either, so I guess Drai is likely locked in as a full time PKer.

Could have changed the dynamic of this team a bit with a solid 2-way C on the 3rd line, someone that can reliably play some at least even hockey against good players. Turris doesn't really help here.



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Kr55 wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 13:25

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 13:18

Goose wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 12:56

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 10:26

Goose wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:17

The cap hit is great. There are better options out there, so I just hope they don't use the money saved here on not getting a better 3C and give Markstrom a stupid contract.

Who do you think is better?


For 3C, I think the Oilers need someone that doesn't get them killed in terms of goal differential (with McDavid and Drai, the 3C just needs to be close to even and everything is good). They also should be able to PK so that Nuge and Drai don't have to do it as much. Kyle Turris' 5x5 GF% has not been good the last few years, and that's with Nashville, which is even worse. And he doesn't PK.

Based on that criteria, in terms of FA, I think that Koivu or Soderberg would be better in this spot.

Woodguy went into a deep dive on these players and a bunch more on his blog, which is where I got most of my data from. https://becauseoilers.blogspot.com/

Woodguy also really likes Johann Larsson, but i'm not sure that his last season wasn't just a one off.

Turris wasn't a fit in Nashville, he was great in Ottawa.

I saw lots of what woodguy said and I can appreciate where he is coming from and the value he puts in all his advanced stats. But Larsson is a left handed center that has scored 10 goals once and this past season had 6 goals and 18 its in 62 games. That' an 8 goal, 24 pt pace. He's 28 so he is what he is. I don't see how that screams 3rd line center.

Koivu is going to be 38 yrs old and is slow and had 4 goals and 21 its last year. I don't see how bringing in a guy that old and slow helps you when you need more speed on your team.




The issue I see is how you really don't want Turris playing against good players. So, if our intention is that Turris is our 3rd line C, Tippett is locked into needing to ensure McDavid and Drai are always getting the tough defensive assignments. Turris can't kill penalties at all either, so I guess Drai is likely locked in as a full time PKer.

Could have changed the dynamic of this team a bit with a solid 2-way C on the 3rd line, someone that can reliably play some at least even hockey against good players. Turris doesn't really help here.

I think the Oilers need to get some scoring from the bottom 6. Turris should help with that.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 13:34

Kr55 wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 13:25

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 13:18

Goose wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 12:56

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 10:26

Goose wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:17

The cap hit is great. There are better options out there, so I just hope they don't use the money saved here on not getting a better 3C and give Markstrom a stupid contract.

Who do you think is better?


For 3C, I think the Oilers need someone that doesn't get them killed in terms of goal differential (with McDavid and Drai, the 3C just needs to be close to even and everything is good). They also should be able to PK so that Nuge and Drai don't have to do it as much. Kyle Turris' 5x5 GF% has not been good the last few years, and that's with Nashville, which is even worse. And he doesn't PK.

Based on that criteria, in terms of FA, I think that Koivu or Soderberg would be better in this spot.

Woodguy went into a deep dive on these players and a bunch more on his blog, which is where I got most of my data from. https://becauseoilers.blogspot.com/

Woodguy also really likes Johann Larsson, but i'm not sure that his last season wasn't just a one off.

Turris wasn't a fit in Nashville, he was great in Ottawa.

I saw lots of what woodguy said and I can appreciate where he is coming from and the value he puts in all his advanced stats. But Larsson is a left handed center that has scored 10 goals once and this past season had 6 goals and 18 its in 62 games. That' an 8 goal, 24 pt pace. He's 28 so he is what he is. I don't see how that screams 3rd line center.

Koivu is going to be 38 yrs old and is slow and had 4 goals and 21 its last year. I don't see how bringing in a guy that old and slow helps you when you need more speed on your team.




The issue I see is how you really don't want Turris playing against good players. So, if our intention is that Turris is our 3rd line C, Tippett is locked into needing to ensure McDavid and Drai are always getting the tough defensive assignments. Turris can't kill penalties at all either, so I guess Drai is likely locked in as a full time PKer.

Could have changed the dynamic of this team a bit with a solid 2-way C on the 3rd line, someone that can reliably play some at least even hockey against good players. Turris doesn't really help here.

I think the Oilers need to get some scoring from the bottom 6. Turris should help with that.


Scoring is good. As long as you're not getting scored on more than you score. As Goose points out, Turris has been getting beat up at even strength a lot in his career.

Maybe it can work though. If Tippett does work it so his 3rd line gets some sheltered ice time against weak competition, maybe a Turris centered line could do some damage. That means McDavid or Drai are the guys opening that door by playing the tough minutes, which I guess is fair going by salaries :)

Still would be nice though to have a more dependable all situation 3rd line that could open up McDavid and Drai to take advantage of some weak competition though.



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Turris wasn't a fit in Nashville, he was great in Ottawa.

I saw lots of what woodguy said and I can appreciate where he is coming from and the value he puts in all his advanced stats. But Larsson is a left handed center that has scored 10 goals once and this past season had 6 goals and 18 its in 62 games. That' an 8 goal, 24 pt pace. He's 28 so he is what he is. I don't see how that screams 3rd line center.

Koivu is going to be 38 yrs old and is slow and had 4 goals and 21 its last year. I don't see how bringing in a guy that old and slow helps you when you need more speed on your team.




Turris' 5x5 GF% in his last 3 years in Ottawa was not good: 43.75% / 48.24% / 36.36% (small sample before being traded to NSH).

Last year in Nashville, when Turris was on the ice at 5x5, the Predators gave up 8 more goals than they scored. That's obviously not all on him, but for context the Predators as a team scored 17 more goals than they gave up at 5x5, (the Oilers were -16 in this category). It's notable in that those 8 goals would more than wipe out the advantage that the Oilers had in that category (+7), with Leon on the ice.

Like I said, the contract is great, and I hope he can bounce back, but the Oilers are going to need him to be better than he's been over the past few seasons.

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17/18: 234 GF / 263 GA (-29)
18/19: 232 GF / 274 GA (-42)
19/20 (82 game pace): 257 GF / 254 GA (+3) in 64 games
2021 (82 game pace):269 GF / 235 GA (+34) after 38 games

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Goose wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 12:56



Based on that criteria, in terms of FA, I think that Koivu or Soderberg would be better in this spot.


Soderberg would have been good. Curious what he ends up getting, my guess is it could be a lot higher.

Koivu I had some time for also, but both his age and injury history had me a little leery.

I do think the RH shot was a big selling feature for the Oilers, something neither Koivu or Soderberg possess.

We will see. I think he will likely live up to the contract, whether that is on the wing or centre. You might be able to flip him and Nuge if it comes to it.



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Really like this. For a bad Kyle Turris year, he was on pace for 41 points last season. That would be great value if we can count on that kind of production.


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To put it all in context.. Tyler Pitlick just signed in ARZ for 2 x $1.75 M ..




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Skookum Jim wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 12:36

To put it all in context.. Tyler Pitlick just signed in ARZ for 2 x $1.75 M ..




Also.. Pulju and Turris combined under AA's QO



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Oscargasm wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 12:40

Skookum Jim wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 12:36

To put it all in context.. Tyler Pitlick just signed in ARZ for 2 x $1.75 M ..




Also.. Pulju and Turris combined under AA's QO

I don't like the fact they lost the picks for AA but if that is where is money went, hard not to like that.

I am very interested to see what he gets considering the rumors are the Oilers offered 2 yrs at 2.4 mill per and he said no.



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In 2017-2018 he had 2.42 pts/60 minutes TOI (1,263 min TOI, 76 games)
In 2018-2019 he had 1.60 pts/60 minutes TOI (863 min TOI, 55 games)
In 2019-2020 he had 1.95 pts/60 minutes TOI (956 min TOI, 62 games)

Big drop off in TOI last two seasons, likely injuries and/or dropped down to secondary role,
Turris gets to hit the <refresh> button..
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Season	Age	Tm	Lg	GP	G	A	PTS	+/-	PIM	EV	PP	SH	GW	EV	PP	SH	S	S%	TSA	TOI	ATOI	FOW	FOL	FO%	BLK	HIT	TK	GV	Awards
2007-08	18	PHX	NHL	3	0	1	1	-5	2	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	11	0.0	15	59	19:45	17	25	40.5	3	0	2	2	
2008-09	19	PHX	NHL	63	8	12	20	-15	21	5	3	0	3	4	8	0	91	8.8	143	814	12:55	236	313	43.0	13	33	17	17	
2010-11	21	PHX	NHL	65	11	14	25	0	16	11	0	0	1	13	1	0	116	9.5	186	733	11:16	270	270	50.0	15	30	14	19	
2011-12	22	TOT	NHL	55	12	17	29	10	31	11	1	0	2	13	4	0	142	8.5	239	927	16:51	338	385	46.7	14	23	21	18	
2011-12	22	PHX	NHL	6	0	0	0	-2	4	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	9	0.0	15	76	12:45	21	30	41.2	1	2	3	0	
2011-12	22	OTT	NHL	49	12	17	29	12	27	11	1	0	2	13	4	0	133	9.0	224	850	17:21	317	355	47.2	13	21	18	18	
2012-13	23	OTT	NHL	48	12	17	29	6	24	9	3	0	2	11	6	0	118	10.2	226	943	19:38	451	469	49.0	20	30	28	27	
2013-14	24	OTT	NHL	82	26	32	58	22	39	18	6	2	5	23	8	1	215	12.1	389	1536	18:44	724	705	50.7	33	45	51	39	
2014-15	25	OTT	NHL	82	24	40	64	5	36	19	4	1	6	28	12	0	215	11.2	420	1576	19:13	737	730	50.2	40	48	48	46	
2015-16	26	OTT	NHL	57	13	17	30	-15	32	10	3	0	2	11	5	1	122	10.7	225	1123	19:42	536	508	51.3	31	44	16	24	
2016-17	27	OTT	NHL	78	27	28	55	-3	47	21	6	0	6	17	11	0	185	14.6	350	1521	19:30	650	575	53.1	61	21	25	57	
2017-18	28	TOT	NHL	76	16	35	51	19	26	9	7	0	0	21	14	0	145	11.0	272	1263	16:37	449	423	51.5	35	21	38	33	
2017-18	28	OTT	NHL	11	3	6	9	-3	2	1	2	0	0	4	2	0	26	11.5	46	217	19:42	91	58	61.1	6	2	7	8	
2017-18	28	NSH	NHL	65	13	29	42	22	24	8	5	0	0	17	12	0	119	10.9	226	1046	16:06	358	365	49.5	29	19	31	25	
2018-19	29	NSH	NHL	55	7	16	23	-6	33	3	4	0	1	14	2	0	78	9.0	146	863	15:42	281	272	50.8	15	24	19	26	
2019-20	30	NSH	NHL	62	9	22	31	-9	22	7	2	0	4	14	8	0	88	10.2	162	956	15:25	246	




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Knew something was up with how he played last night πŸ˜‚



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Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 09 March 2021 15:41

Turris in covid protocol

Knew something was up with how he played last night πŸ˜‚

I am guessing just like it was with JP, he got an inconclusive test and it's ends up being nothing.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 09 March 2021 15:48

Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 09 March 2021 15:41

Turris in covid protocol

Knew something was up with how he played last night πŸ˜‚

I am guessing just like it was with JP, he got an inconclusive test and it's ends up being nothing.


Ugh. Guy is gonna miss 2 games vs Ottawa. Golden chances to look useful again



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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 09 March 2021 16:05

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 09 March 2021 15:48

Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 09 March 2021 15:41

Turris in covid protocol

Knew something was up with how he played last night πŸ˜‚

I am guessing just like it was with JP, he got an inconclusive test and it's ends up being nothing.


Ugh. Guy is gonna miss 2 games vs Ottawa. Golden chances to look useful again

He actually looked decent last night. I had hoped it was a spring board for him finally figuring his game out. Now we will have to miss at least a couple of games before he gets cleared.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 09 March 2021 17:08

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 09 March 2021 16:05

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 09 March 2021 15:48

Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 09 March 2021 15:41

Turris in covid protocol

Knew something was up with how he played last night πŸ˜‚

I am guessing just like it was with JP, he got an inconclusive test and it's ends up being nothing.


Ugh. Guy is gonna miss 2 games vs Ottawa. Golden chances to look useful again

He actually looked decent last night. I had hoped it was a spring board for him finally figuring his game out. Now we will have to miss at least a couple of games before he gets cleared.


It’s a close contact situation with Turris, apparently. So unlike Jesse’s situation. I assume he’ll be on the list for a few days regardless.



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Turris is off the covid list


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Turris in the BOA will be like an ice cube in the Sahara.


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Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 16 March 2021 18:49

Turris in the BOA will be like an ice cube in the Sahara.

LOL...This is awesome, Jimmy...

ALMOST as good as the Belanger comment...eff it...i'm adding it to the siggy.



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Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 16 March 2021 18:49

Turris in the BOA will be like an ice cube in the Sahara.

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OilPeg wrote on Wed, 17 March 2021 07:15

Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 16 March 2021 18:49

Turris in the BOA will be like an ice cube in the Sahara.

LOL...This is awesome, Jimmy...

ALMOST as good as the Belanger comment...eff it...i'm adding it to the siggy.


LOL! I am truly honoured Oiler from the Peg god 😊 πŸ‘πŸ»

I was originally going to use "Like an ice cube landing on the Sun" but thought it could be considered too much a stretch... like how would you get an ice cube on the Sun?? confused4






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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 17 March 2021 22:46

OilPeg wrote on Wed, 17 March 2021 07:15

Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 16 March 2021 18:49

Turris in the BOA will be like an ice cube in the Sahara.

LOL...This is awesome, Jimmy...

ALMOST as good as the Belanger comment...eff it...i'm adding it to the siggy.


LOL! I am truly honoured Oiler from the Peg god 😊 πŸ‘πŸ»

I was originally going to use "Like an ice cube landing on the Sun" but thought it could be considered too much a stretch... like how would you get an ice cube on the Sun?? confused4





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Turris on waivers.

Butt goal didn't cancel out all the games of him just floating around like a lazy turd.



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Kr55 wrote on Fri, 09 April 2021 14:06

Turris on waivers.

Butt goal didn't cancel out all the games of him just floating around like a lazy turd.

Interesting how some players just lose "it" after a point. He was a good player in Ottawa.



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CrudeRemarks wrote on Fri, 09 April 2021 14:08

Kr55 wrote on Fri, 09 April 2021 14:06

Turris on waivers.

Butt goal didn't cancel out all the games of him just floating around like a lazy turd.

Interesting how some players just lose "it" after a point. He was a good player in Ottawa.


Long term deals for a forward in Nashville seem to have a 50/50 or worse shot of the player just not caring anymore.

Johansen, Duchene, Turris. Canadian boys lose their mojo in Nashville? Guess all 3 had a history of being lazy before though.

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