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At the least it looks like he will fill the "playing with mouth piece hanging out" hole that Gagner is leaving.
The one that starts at 15:00. I hope we see that a lot with him and McDavid :)
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"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
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WhoreableGuy
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Worst part of the trade is now having to try and spell Athanasiou correctly.
So in other words, really happy.
"Bah Gawd! Would somebody stop the damn draft!"
- Jim Ross calling the NHL Draft Lotto 2015 as the Oilers win
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Skookum Jim
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Worst part of the trade is now having to try and spell Athanasiou correctly.
So in other words, really happy.
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Break it down to 3 pieces ..
Athan
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IOU
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Oscargasm
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 13:13 |
| WhoreableGuy wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 10:54 |
Worst part of the trade is now having to try and spell Athanasiou correctly.
So in other words, really happy.
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Break it down to 3 pieces ..
Athan
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Athan
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E-U
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 12:13 |
| WhoreableGuy wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 10:54 |
Worst part of the trade is now having to try and spell Athanasiou correctly.
So in other words, really happy.
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Break it down to 3 pieces ..
Athan
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This I can do.
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JPro
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Terrific deal. Sad to lose Sam though. I really thought he'd be the kind of guy to turn it up big time during the playoffs ala Pisani. Oh well, a clear upgrade for the Oilers.
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inverno76
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Crossing my fingers for instant chemistry with #97. That is a whole lot of speed for opposing teams to handle.
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jds308
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And the Eberle deal rises from the ashes and continues to live on!
Eberle -> Strome -> Spooner (though it was dead here) -> Gagner -> Athanasiou
Woot!
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Magnum
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| jds308 wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 12:01 |
And the Eberle deal rises from the ashes and continues to live on!
Eberle -> Strome -> Spooner (though it was dead here) -> Gagner -> Athanasiou
Woot!
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Post of the day. That's why you never throw out any of your tools!
2015/2016 - This Kool-Aid tastes like McDavid flavoured Drain-O.
2016/2017 - This Kool-Aid is starting to taste like juice.
2017/2018 - I'm drinking this Kool-Aid, in hopes that it's Drain-O.
2018/2019 - Another round of Drain-O, good sir!
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| Magnum wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 12:14 |
| jds308 wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 12:01 |
And the Eberle deal rises from the ashes and continues to live on!
Eberle -> Strome -> Spooner (though it was dead here) -> Gagner -> Athanasiou
Woot!
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Post of the day. That's why you never throw out any of your tools!
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Seriously, it looks like Holland has managed to turn some of Chia's turds into gold. Good GM'ing is so refreshing for this hockey team...
"There's no greater springboard to development than failure." - Craig MacTavish, April 13/15.
5-14-6-1
"Sabres think the suck is their ally? They merely adopted the suck. The Oilers were born in it...molded by it."
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Gator21
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| jds308 wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 12:01 |
And the Eberle deal rises from the ashes and continues to live on!
Eberle -> Strome -> Spooner (though it was dead here) -> Gagner -> Athanasiou
Woot!
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The Messier trade tree lives on!
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jds308
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| Gator21 wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 11:47 |
| jds308 wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 12:01 |
And the Eberle deal rises from the ashes and continues to live on!
Eberle -> Strome -> Spooner (though it was dead here) -> Gagner -> Athanasiou
Woot!
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The Messier trade tree lives on!
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Good call!
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Kr55
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| Gator21 wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 12:47 |
| jds308 wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 12:01 |
And the Eberle deal rises from the ashes and continues to live on!
Eberle -> Strome -> Spooner (though it was dead here) -> Gagner -> Athanasiou
Woot!
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The Messier trade tree lives on!
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Messier for Athanasiou. The trade is 1 for 1
#FireSather
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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CrudeRemarks
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| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 21:38 |
| Gator21 wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 12:47 |
| jds308 wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 12:01 |
And the Eberle deal rises from the ashes and continues to live on!
Eberle -> Strome -> Spooner (though it was dead here) -> Gagner -> Athanasiou
Woot!
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The Messier trade tree lives on!
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Messier for Athanasiou. The trade is 1 for 1
#FireSather
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It’s a net win. Messier is a LOSER and bad news in the room. Hasn’t won anything in a quarter century
You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.
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Kr55
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We retain 315,000 of salary on Gagner.
Capfriendly now says we have 2.8M of "current cap space". Still enough for Hall! haha, but with no 2nd round picks and not wanting to move a 1st. I think this might be it. Saving a bit of space to absorb some of Smith's bonuses.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Oscargasm
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| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 12:59 |
We retain 315,000 of salary on Gagner.
Capfriendly now says we have 2.8M of "current cap space".
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Stauffer indicates Kenny is still in on Ennis(Ott) and Cousins(MTL)
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Kr55
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| Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 12:00 |
| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 12:59 |
We retain 315,000 of salary on Gagner.
Capfriendly now says we have 2.8M of "current cap space".
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Stauffer indicates Kenny is still in on Ennis(Ott) and Cousins(MTL)
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Ah nice. Ennis would still be a nice add for a later pick.
AA-McDavid-Ennis >>>>>>>>> Gagner-McDavid-Chaisson hehe
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Oscargasm
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| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 13:01 |
| Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 12:00 |
| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 12:59 |
We retain 315,000 of salary on Gagner.
Capfriendly now says we have 2.8M of "current cap space".
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Stauffer indicates Kenny is still in on Ennis(Ott) and Cousins(MTL)
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Ah nice. Ennis would still be a nice add for a later pick.
AA-McDavid-Ennis >>>>>>>>> Gagner-McDavid-Chaisson hehe
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It’s done bro. Ennis is on his way.
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inverno76
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| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 12:01 |
| Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 12:00 |
| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 12:59 |
We retain 315,000 of salary on Gagner.
Capfriendly now says we have 2.8M of "current cap space".
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Stauffer indicates Kenny is still in on Ennis(Ott) and Cousins(MTL)
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Ah nice. Ennis would still be a nice add for a later pick.
AA-McDavid-Ennis >>>>>>>>> Gagner-McDavid-Chaisson hehe
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It would be a similar facsimile to Nuge-Drai-Yams. Not sure if it translates on ice. Today is good day.
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Oscargasm
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Per Rishaug’s twitter;
Athanasiou flying in to Anaheim later tonight. Both he and Green expected to be available for tomorrow’s game vs the Ducks.
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Kr55
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Holland did it, 50/50 contracts.
https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/oilers
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Oscargasm
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All while keeping the 1st round pick and getting Athanasiou who is under team control for at least one more season following this.
He has arb rights this summer.
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Skookum Jim
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Location: Burnaby, BC
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So..
M. Green
A. Athanasiou
T. Ennis
For;
S. Gagner
2nd
2nd
4th
5th
That's a good day at the office.. hmmm, so that's what good GM'ing looks like .. #ThanksforNothingSweatyChiaPet
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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CrusaderPi
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 12:22 |
So..
M. Green
A. Athanasiou
T. Ennis
For;
S. Gagner
2nd
2nd
4th
5th
That's a good day at the office.. hmmm, so that's what good GM'ing looks like .. #ThanksforNothingSweatyChiaPet
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Yeah, I like that. The 4th and 5th are total magic beans and while I like Gagner… he's not the solution.
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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RDOilerfan
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 12:27 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 12:22 |
So..
M. Green
A. Athanasiou
T. Ennis
For;
S. Gagner
2nd
2nd
4th
5th
That's a good day at the office.. hmmm, so that's what good GM'ing looks like .. #ThanksforNothingSweatyChiaPet
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Yeah, I like that. The 4th and 5th are total magic beans and while I like Gagner… he's not the solution.
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I am sure the guys are sort of sad about Gags going as he's a good dude but they have to be absolutely stoked with their GM and fired up especially McD and Leon. They both have payed their asses off and dragged the team to the playoffs and their GM brings in 3 legit NHLers, 2 legit good top 9 wingers and gave up magic beans, a guy in Brodziak who they don't see and who's career is over due to injury and a 4th line winger making 3 times what he should.
I'm trying not to get too excited because you never know what will happen but is is what a real GM looks like? Addressing team needs and in all likelihood won all this trades.
He won the Neal trade. Anytime you get rid of Lucic and his contract that would impact the expansion draft at the very least that's a win.
They got Athanasiou who at worst is a top 9 forward with speed but who I think can be a top 6 guy. He scored 30 last year. He's got skill. They gave up 2 maybes that are if you are lucky 4 yrs away.
They brought in Ennis who will upgrade the bottom 6. Could play up but gave up nothing. A 5th is a most likely never will be.
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JPro
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I am extremely excited for the next few months. Was not expecting this in the fall. This will be fun!
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Kr55
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Athanasiou's PDO is 0.916. Goalies basically save nothing when he's been out there. Worst sav% luck on the red wings this year. Lowest PDO in the NHL for guys that have played >500 mins 5v5.
Green not far behind with 0.954. He gets some saves, but still sad. 13th lowest in the NHL.
Hope there guys can quickly turn their mindset around getting away from an intentional tanking clown show.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Oscargasm
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I, for one, can’t wait to see McAthanassian in action.
Perhaps at some point, we’ll see McAthannis.
Though, personally, I believe believe we’ll see SheBaldnnis as a solid two way line.
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kungpaobenji27
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Only thing Holland can do to top this off would be the return of Petr Nedved......
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Oscargasm
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A twitter thread for you analytics ppl on Athanasiou;
https://twitter.com/waltlaw69/status/1232084509136429056?s=2 1
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Kr55
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Oh nice, he fit in the model from the guy that says Craig Smith is having a more Hart-worthy season than Drai in there at the end.
Actually maybe that's someone else :)
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"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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halfafrog
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Not sure AA can start a huge brouhaha that ends with a goalie fight like Gagner can. But I'm willing to take a chance on him
So this is what hope feels like?
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Oscargasm
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| halfafrog wrote on Tue, 25 February 2020 12:11 |
Not sure AA can start a huge brouhaha that ends with a goalie fight like Gagner can. But I'm willing to take a chance on him
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He has a sweet pic of him in a fight on his IG.
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I remember him blocking a wicked shot, hopefully just a fractured tibia, send to McD's Doc's for a rebuild
... just joking.
I think he'll be back soon.
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Oscargasm
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Jason Gregor on the wonderful twitter machine;
Source tells me Athanasiou injury is a bruise. Doesn't think it is serious. Would be good news if he plays Saturday so the return of Kassian is an addition, not just replacing another injured player. #Oilers
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Kr55
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| Oscargasm wrote on Thu, 27 February 2020 18:38 |
Jason Gregor on the wonderful twitter machine;
Source tells me Athanasiou injury is a bruise. Doesn't think it is serious. Would be good news if he plays Saturday so the return of Kassian is an addition, not just replacing another injured player. #Oilers
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Oh boy! You know, a bruise can be worse than you think!
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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| Kr55 wrote on Thu, 27 February 2020 18:49 |
| Oscargasm wrote on Thu, 27 February 2020 18:38 |
Jason Gregor on the wonderful twitter machine;
Source tells me Athanasiou injury is a bruise. Doesn't think it is serious. Would be good news if he plays Saturday so the return of Kassian is an addition, not just replacing another injured player. #Oilers
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Oh boy! You know, a bruise can be worse than you think!
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Context please!
The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.
Generally Disappointed.
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Kr55
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| Rocksteady wrote on Fri, 28 February 2020 09:53 |
| Kr55 wrote on Thu, 27 February 2020 18:49 |
| Oscargasm wrote on Thu, 27 February 2020 18:38 |
Jason Gregor on the wonderful twitter machine;
Source tells me Athanasiou injury is a bruise. Doesn't think it is serious. Would be good news if he plays Saturday so the return of Kassian is an addition, not just replacing another injured player. #Oilers
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Oh boy! You know, a bruise can be worse than you think!
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Context please!
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Making fun of how giddy Lames homer Hrudey was when McDavid was out with a bruise. He excitedly pointed out how a bruise can be worse than you think.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
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