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WhoreableGuy wrote on Sun, 02 February 2020 06:47


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It’s baffling to me how little Flames fans still understand Lucic’s contract. It doesn’t matter if I’m talking to friends and co-workers they all try justifying the trade and I keep reiterating that just not having Lucic’s contract on the Oilers books is a win regardless.


Head over the CP. Tons of posters calling for Ward to send Lucic down. These morons don't even understand how a NMC works.



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bigEfromGP wrote on Sun, 02 February 2020 10:36

WhoreableGuy wrote on Sun, 02 February 2020 06:47


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It’s baffling to me how little Flames fans still understand Lucic’s contract. It doesn’t matter if I’m talking to friends and co-workers they all try justifying the trade and I keep reiterating that just not having Lucic’s contract on the Oilers books is a win regardless.


Head over the CP. Tons of posters calling for Ward to send Lucic down. These morons don't even understand how a NMC works.


Along with countless posts calling for Treliving’s head for the soft/gutless team he’s assembled and demands of trading everyone not named Tkachuk, Lindholm, Giordano or Andersson.

I seriously don’t get the Flames love for this Rasmus Andersson guy. I’ve watched probably a dozen Flames games this year, outside BoA’s, as a hockey fan and though I admittedly watch with SOME bias, I don’t see anything that this guy brings on the ice to make me think he’s anything more than a 3rd pair plug. They extended him for 6 years at 4.5AAV and while Brodie and Hamonic both come off the books for them this summer, barring extensions, the clear plan is that he will be one of their top 3 dmen. As an Oilers fan, I like it. 97 and 29 will be able to expose this pretender for years.



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During the brawl, part of me was hoping Nurse would get a hold of Giordano and give him a good licking.

The other part of me worried that if he did so, he would break his hand on that 70 lb boulder skull.



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The best BOA & hockey game i’ve Seen in over 15-20 years. Won literally all facets of the game! Impressed!


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g2k wrote on Sun, 02 February 2020 08:34

During the brawl, part of me was hoping Nurse would get a hold of Giordano and give him a good licking.

The other part of me worried that if he did so, he would break his hand on that 70 lb boulder skull.

Gio is just lucky Nuge wasn’t in the ice during the big scrum or he would’ve felt the fists of justice.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #52) [message #753307 is a reply to message #753224 ]
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WOuld love to know some of the chirps they gave Rittich as he went off (the first time)

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Could see Rittich smash his stick as soon as he got down the tunnel. Mike Smith called him out too as a guy he is friends with, but definitely can go too far. Hope a little doubt creeps into his game.

[Updated on: Sun, 02 February 2020 10:22]


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guess we can thank Nurse for the goalie fight

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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 02 February 2020 09:10

guess we can thank Nurse for the goalie fight

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Hope no Oilers players look at this site

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/Western/Pacific/Edmonton. html

50/50 shot if we play 2 games under .500 the rest of the way.



Perennial Oilers doubter analytics guy on theathletic has his model giving us an 84% shot now

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Start of the year based purely off our roster our odds were barely over 20%. Dipped under 20% after the horrid December we had. Thinking Yamamoto's small career sample size gave us a boost in his model.

[Updated on: Sun, 02 February 2020 10:58]


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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #52) [message #753313 is a reply to message #753310 ]
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Is there any analysis going into that chart? Is just seems like a reproduction of the standings, but in chart form. Must be weighted to points in the standings closer to the end of the season, and based on players and last years' standings at the beginning of the year. The predictive value is probably as good as the current standings are.


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Magnum wrote on Sun, 02 February 2020 12:45

Is there any analysis going into that chart? Is just seems like a reproduction of the standings, but in chart form. Must be weighted to points in the standings closer to the end of the season, and based on players and last years' standings at the beginning of the year. The predictive value is probably as good as the current standings are.


He uses a player model that assigns each player a score for how many wins they are worth. Can see at the start of the chart that his model said we are garbage, 2nd worst in the division (Kings last). Somewhat understandable because we had so many spots filled with total unknowns like guys from Europe that never touched NHL ice. Goalies didn't help at all either.

Even when we were leading the division our lineup quality still was keeping us barely over 50% to make it. When the flames were completely in the dumps before Peters was fired, he still didn't have them dipping under 40%, yet when we were in a wildcard spot in Dec we are sitting around 20%.



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Sure would have been nice if the season series wasn't completely in the favor of the Flamers, but if they only could win one game, this was the game to do it in. Good goals, good fights, and beating the living hell out of them in their own arena in front of the knuckle-dragging mouthbreathers they call fans while leap-frogging them in the standings and still having a game at hand. Not bad for a night's work....

P.S.: The only things keeping this from being a perfect game were Gio and Tkachuk remaining self-ambulatory at the end...



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Ragnarok73 wrote on Sun, 02 February 2020 11:56

Sure would have been nice if the season series wasn't completely in the favor of the Flamers, but if they only could win one game, this was the game to do it in. Good goals, good fights, and beating the living hell out of them in their own arena in front of the knuckle-dragging mouthbreathers they call fans while leap-frogging them in the standings and still having a game at hand. Not bad for a night's work....

P.S.: The only things keeping this from being a perfect game were Gio and Tkachuk remaining self-ambulatory at the end...


I really feel that this game as a response to the past two games against the Flames, is well embodied by this meme:

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #52) [message #753316 is a reply to message #753311 ]
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just remember the first tiebraker is regulation time wins (not OT or shootout). The Oilers are 6 regulation wins ahead of the fLamers. That is a bit comforting at least.


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welcometotheOC wrote on Sun, 02 February 2020 15:05

just remember the first tiebraker is regulation time wins (not OT or shootout). The Oilers are 6 regulation wins ahead of the fLamers. That is a bit comforting at least.


As well as team goal differential... the head to head thing is the 4th tie breaker. I think anyway.



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welcometotheOC wrote on Sun, 02 February 2020 14:05

just remember the first tiebraker is regulation time wins (not OT or shootout). The Oilers are 6 regulation wins ahead of the fLamers. That is a bit comforting at least.


It's actually 7, I just checked.

The Flames have only 17 regulation wins in 53 games played. No wonder they fizzle out come playoff time, no 3 on 3 or shootout when the games go into extra time. To be honest they shouldn't be in a playoff spot, crazy.



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WhoreableGuy wrote on Sun, 02 February 2020 16:00

welcometotheOC wrote on Sun, 02 February 2020 14:05

just remember the first tiebraker is regulation time wins (not OT or shootout). The Oilers are 6 regulation wins ahead of the fLamers. That is a bit comforting at least.


It's actually 7, I just checked.

The Flames have only 17 regulation wins in 53 games played. No wonder they fizzle out come playoff time, no 3 on 3 or shootout when the games go into extra time. To be honest they shouldn't be in a playoff spot, crazy.


I think it's worse than that. I read 1 regulation win in January. Last time they won by more than 1 goal was the first game against Edm.



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Absolutely loved that game!

Oilers were the better team on Wednesday, Rittich played well and got bailed out by his posts twice. He disrespected the Oilers and especially Leon. They and Leon filed it away and boot stomped the Flames on their home ice. They beat the crap out of them on the score sheet and even won most of the fights. I didn't see the Khaira fight. I thought Bear handled himself extremely well against a bigger Tkachuk and to me took the decision. Smith beat up Talbot.

Lucic. icon_lol Enjoy Calgary. Enjoy.

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I loved the way the game appealed to our primal instincts. Why wouldn't the NHL be thrilled with games like this? As much as the fans on both sides were/are screaming for more revenge and retribution, the skill displayed, especially by the Oilers, was absolutely superb. I know that Calgary has already won the season's series over the Oilers points wise, but the Oilers seem to finally be learning how to win over the Flames.

Connor McDavid scored two fabulous goals, and this has hardly been mentioned in the post game discussions. Draisaitl had a great game, too with three assists. Yamamoto has played so well since his call up from Bakersfield, and Saturday night might have been his best game so far.

The defense was a little clumsy, but showed some very positive signs. Larsson was very physical, and Nurse and Bear are showing skill and physical presence. I thought Jones looked very stable and confident, and I really like the way he is coming along - steady improvement as the Oilers slowly bring him along. His partner Matt Benning seems to be recovering nicely from his injuries, and is shaking off the rust from a long layoff. Kris Russell I hope can recover from his injuries, but he is almost excess baggage on this team.




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I think the NHL is privately thrilled with the game, but would never say so publicly.

Nobody got hurt, there was no head-hunting or dirty plays, yet it had all the emotions. It was the perfect game.



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GabbyDugan wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 09:06

Kris Russell I hope can recover from his injuries, but he is almost excess baggage on this team.



Hey - Jim Matheson tweeted that Russell is very valuable to this team and you wouldn't find any of his teammates who'd say a bad word about him!

If Ol' Jim likes him, who are we to say anything different?



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Adam wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 10:45

GabbyDugan wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 09:06

Kris Russell I hope can recover from his injuries, but he is almost excess baggage on this team.



Hey - Jim Matheson tweeted that Russell is very valuable to this team and you wouldn't find any of his teammates who'd say a bad word about him!

If Ol' Jim likes him, who are we to say anything different?

If he's making 2 mill in and in your 3rd pairing, it's not a big deal to have him on the team. At 4 mill cap hit, he makes too much.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 10:48

Adam wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 10:45

GabbyDugan wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 09:06

Kris Russell I hope can recover from his injuries, but he is almost excess baggage on this team.



Hey - Jim Matheson tweeted that Russell is very valuable to this team and you wouldn't find any of his teammates who'd say a bad word about him!

If Ol' Jim likes him, who are we to say anything different?

If he's making 2 mill in and in your 3rd pairing, it's not a big deal to have him on the team. At 4 mill cap hit, he makes too much.


Even at $2MM, it's pretty ugly when he's the 7th best defenceman on the roster.

The coach has been playing a raw rookie on his off-side because he trusts him more to play the right than Kris Russell...that's damning.

Here's praying there's someone who loves shot blocking who'll take him this summer.



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Adam wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 10:51

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 10:48

Adam wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 10:45

GabbyDugan wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 09:06

Kris Russell I hope can recover from his injuries, but he is almost excess baggage on this team.



Hey - Jim Matheson tweeted that Russell is very valuable to this team and you wouldn't find any of his teammates who'd say a bad word about him!

If Ol' Jim likes him, who are we to say anything different?

If he's making 2 mill in and in your 3rd pairing, it's not a big deal to have him on the team. At 4 mill cap hit, he makes too much.


Even at $2MM, it's pretty ugly when he's the 7th best defenceman on the roster.

The coach has been playing a raw rookie on his off-side because he trusts him more to play the right than Kris Russell...that's damning.

Here's praying there's someone who loves shot blocking who'll take him this summer.

Are you making your comments on Russell objectively or does your dislike of Russell play a factor? You haven't been a fan of his for a very long time.

I am not a Russell lover what so ever. The Oilers for a while lacked NHL dmen, while not ideal, he filled a void. He wasn't amazing but adequate for the most part. Now that the have strengthened their defense and seemingly have more coming, I've been saying it a long time now that they need to get rid of him. But in saying that, I have a hard time believing he'd be a #7 dman on very many teams in this league, he'd be playing.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 11:03

Adam wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 10:51

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 10:48

Adam wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 10:45

GabbyDugan wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 09:06

Kris Russell I hope can recover from his injuries, but he is almost excess baggage on this team.



Hey - Jim Matheson tweeted that Russell is very valuable to this team and you wouldn't find any of his teammates who'd say a bad word about him!

If Ol' Jim likes him, who are we to say anything different?

If he's making 2 mill in and in your 3rd pairing, it's not a big deal to have him on the team. At 4 mill cap hit, he makes too much.


Even at $2MM, it's pretty ugly when he's the 7th best defenceman on the roster.

The coach has been playing a raw rookie on his off-side because he trusts him more to play the right than Kris Russell...that's damning.

Here's praying there's someone who loves shot blocking who'll take him this summer.

Are you making your comments on Russell objectively or does your dislike of Russell play a factor? You haven't been a fan of his for a very long time.

I am not a Russell lover what so ever. The Oilers for a while lacked NHL dmen, while not ideal, he filled a void. He wasn't amazing but adequate for the most part. Now that the have strengthened their defense and seemingly have more coming, I've been saying it a long time now that they need to get rid of him. But in saying that, I have a hard time believing he'd be a #7 dman on very many teams in this league, he'd be playing.


I'm pretty objective - the reasons I don't like Russell aren't personal. He's not a good puck distributor, he struggles to advance the puck and he gives up the blueline too easily.

Doesn't really matter if he'd be the 7th best defencemen on other teams. While I think that's likely where he'd slot in with many, that's where we're at here. Bear passed him, Benning passed him and I think Jones is passing him. I also don't think it's a coincidence that Jones scored and has looked better the last couple games - he's finally playing on his correct side, so he's more comfortable.

That leaves Russell at #7, with a slim lead on Bouchard and Lagesson. The sooner we can move him the better, because if he's a healthy scratch here, it's going to hurt his already fading marketability, but at the same time you can't ask the coach to slot him in if he's not the best option.



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Adam wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 11:49

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 11:03

Adam wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 10:51

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 10:48

Adam wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 10:45

GabbyDugan wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 09:06

Kris Russell I hope can recover from his injuries, but he is almost excess baggage on this team.



Hey - Jim Matheson tweeted that Russell is very valuable to this team and you wouldn't find any of his teammates who'd say a bad word about him!

If Ol' Jim likes him, who are we to say anything different?

If he's making 2 mill in and in your 3rd pairing, it's not a big deal to have him on the team. At 4 mill cap hit, he makes too much.


Even at $2MM, it's pretty ugly when he's the 7th best defenceman on the roster.

The coach has been playing a raw rookie on his off-side because he trusts him more to play the right than Kris Russell...that's damning.

Here's praying there's someone who loves shot blocking who'll take him this summer.

Are you making your comments on Russell objectively or does your dislike of Russell play a factor? You haven't been a fan of his for a very long time.

I am not a Russell lover what so ever. The Oilers for a while lacked NHL dmen, while not ideal, he filled a void. He wasn't amazing but adequate for the most part. Now that the have strengthened their defense and seemingly have more coming, I've been saying it a long time now that they need to get rid of him. But in saying that, I have a hard time believing he'd be a #7 dman on very many teams in this league, he'd be playing.


I'm pretty objective - the reasons I don't like Russell aren't personal. He's not a good puck distributor, he struggles to advance the puck and he gives up the blueline too easily.

Doesn't really matter if he'd be the 7th best defencemen on other teams. While I think that's likely where he'd slot in with many, that's where we're at here. Bear passed him, Benning passed him and I think Jones is passing him. I also don't think it's a coincidence that Jones scored and has looked better the last couple games - he's finally playing on his correct side, so he's more comfortable.

That leaves Russell at #7, with a slim lead on Bouchard and Lagesson. The sooner we can move him the better, because if he's a healthy scratch here, it's going to hurt his already fading marketability, but at the same time you can't ask the coach to slot him in if he's not the best option.


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Adam wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 10:51

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 10:48

Adam wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 10:45

GabbyDugan wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 09:06

Kris Russell I hope can recover from his injuries, but he is almost excess baggage on this team.



Hey - Jim Matheson tweeted that Russell is very valuable to this team and you wouldn't find any of his teammates who'd say a bad word about him!

If Ol' Jim likes him, who are we to say anything different?

If he's making 2 mill in and in your 3rd pairing, it's not a big deal to have him on the team. At 4 mill cap hit, he makes too much.


Even at $2MM, it's pretty ugly when he's the 7th best defenceman on the roster.

The coach has been playing a raw rookie on his off-side because he trusts him more to play the right than Kris Russell...that's damning.

Here's praying there's someone who loves shot blocking who'll take him this summer.

Glass half full, good for the organization that he's being moved down the lineup, rather than getting thrown into the 2nd pairing because of stiffs who aren't as good. Less than 1.5 seasons remaining. I'd like to know the details of the modified NM clause.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 08:37

Absolutely loved that game!

Oilers were the better team on Wednesday, Rittich played well and got bailed out by his posts twice. He disrespected the Oilers and especially Leon. They and Leon filed it away and boot stomped the Flames on their home ice. They beat the crap out of them on the score sheet and even won most of the fights. I didn't see the Khaira fight. I thought Bear handled himself extremely well against a bigger Tkachuk and to me too the decision. Smith beat up Talbot.

Lucic. icon_lol Enjoy Calgary. Enjoy.


Also didn't see the Khaira fight, but heard he labelled Big Buddy with a punch and got the decision.

I do with that Nurse had pummelled Giordano. Thought he got off a little easy, although hopefully a couple of Gagner's punches landed. Apparently Gagner's been burning to give Giordano a little chin music for a long time - Stauffer tweeted that Giordano was giving facewashes to him when he was coming back from his broken jaw. Just the worst.



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Adam wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 10:44

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 08:37

Absolutely loved that game!

Oilers were the better team on Wednesday, Rittich played well and got bailed out by his posts twice. He disrespected the Oilers and especially Leon. They and Leon filed it away and boot stomped the Flames on their home ice. They beat the crap out of them on the score sheet and even won most of the fights. I didn't see the Khaira fight. I thought Bear handled himself extremely well against a bigger Tkachuk and to me too the decision. Smith beat up Talbot.

Lucic. icon_lol Enjoy Calgary. Enjoy.


Also didn't see the Khaira fight, but heard he labelled Big Buddy with a punch and got the decision.

I do with that Nurse had pummelled Giordano. Thought he got off a little easy, although hopefully a couple of Gagner's punches landed. Apparently Gagner's been burning to give Giordano a little chin music for a long time - Stauffer tweeted that Giordano was giving facewashes to him when he was coming back from his broken jaw. Just the worst.

I like seeing Gagner get in there and make Gio look like a chump.



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Saw the brawl again. Tkachuk totally comes in for cheap shots on Gagner when Gags was tied up with Gio. Then Tkachuk 100% was pulling Bear's hair during that fight.

Sheesh, someone put that little prick out of his misery already.

Also missed before that Talbot was working over Chaisson's face with blocker shots on the boards too. Probably the last straw for Smith. Doesn't the league do something about goalies excessively using their blocker as a weapon? Talbot was using it on everyone he could.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 09:55

Saw the brawl again. Tkachuk totally comes in for cheap shots on Gagner when Gags was tied up with Gio. Then Tkachuk 100% was pulling Bear's hair during that fight.

Sheesh, someone put that little prick out of his misery already.

Also missed before that Talbot was working over Chaisson's face with blocker shots on the boards too. Probably the last straw for Smith. Doesn't the league do something about goalies excessively using their blocker as a weapon? Talbot was using it on everyone he could.


I was wondering this as well, isn't Talbot's assault (on more than 1 Oilers player, and with a weapon) the same as Kassian's assault on Tkachuk when he turtled? Repeatedly punching a defenceless, vulnerable, or unwilling opponent is worth a 2 game suspension I thought. I don't personally think Talbot should be suspended, but according to the precedent set by Parros, he should be.



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jds308 wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 11:18

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 09:55

Saw the brawl again. Tkachuk totally comes in for cheap shots on Gagner when Gags was tied up with Gio. Then Tkachuk 100% was pulling Bear's hair during that fight.

Sheesh, someone put that little prick out of his misery already.

Also missed before that Talbot was working over Chaisson's face with blocker shots on the boards too. Probably the last straw for Smith. Doesn't the league do something about goalies excessively using their blocker as a weapon? Talbot was using it on everyone he could.


I was wondering this as well, isn't Talbot's assault (on more than 1 Oilers player, and with a weapon) the same as Kassian's assault on Tkachuk when he turtled? Repeatedly punching a defenceless, vulnerable, or unwilling opponent is worth a 2 game suspension I thought. I don't personally think Talbot should be suspended, but according to the precedent set by Parros, he should be.

Precedent? Parros?

Seems unlikely.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 10:21

jds308 wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 11:18

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 09:55

Saw the brawl again. Tkachuk totally comes in for cheap shots on Gagner when Gags was tied up with Gio. Then Tkachuk 100% was pulling Bear's hair during that fight.

Sheesh, someone put that little prick out of his misery already.

Also missed before that Talbot was working over Chaisson's face with blocker shots on the boards too. Probably the last straw for Smith. Doesn't the league do something about goalies excessively using their blocker as a weapon? Talbot was using it on everyone he could.


I was wondering this as well, isn't Talbot's assault (on more than 1 Oilers player, and with a weapon) the same as Kassian's assault on Tkachuk when he turtled? Repeatedly punching a defenceless, vulnerable, or unwilling opponent is worth a 2 game suspension I thought. I don't personally think Talbot should be suspended, but according to the precedent set by Parros, he should be.

Precedent? Parros?

Seems unlikely.



Plus, Talbot is a goalie, and there are different standards for them. Also, Gagner clearly had it coming so it's all good ;)



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jds308 wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 13:50

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 10:21

jds308 wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 11:18

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 09:55

Saw the brawl again. Tkachuk totally comes in for cheap shots on Gagner when Gags was tied up with Gio. Then Tkachuk 100% was pulling Bear's hair during that fight.

Sheesh, someone put that little prick out of his misery already.

Also missed before that Talbot was working over Chaisson's face with blocker shots on the boards too. Probably the last straw for Smith. Doesn't the league do something about goalies excessively using their blocker as a weapon? Talbot was using it on everyone he could.


I was wondering this as well, isn't Talbot's assault (on more than 1 Oilers player, and with a weapon) the same as Kassian's assault on Tkachuk when he turtled? Repeatedly punching a defenceless, vulnerable, or unwilling opponent is worth a 2 game suspension I thought. I don't personally think Talbot should be suspended, but according to the precedent set by Parros, he should be.

Precedent? Parros?

Seems unlikely.



Plus, Talbot is a goalie, and there are different standards for them. Also, Gagner clearly had it coming so it's all good ;)


McDavid did yell at the ref last game, so really the whole Edmonton team is lucky they called anything at all against Calgary.

Maybe Mclellan had it right all along...



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 09:55

Saw the brawl again. Tkachuk totally comes in for cheap shots on Gagner when Gags was tied up with Gio. Then Tkachuk 100% was pulling Bear's hair during that fight.

Sheesh, someone put that little prick out of his misery already.

Also missed before that Talbot was working over Chaisson's face with blocker shots on the boards too. Probably the last straw for Smith. Doesn't the league do something about goalies excessively using their blocker as a weapon? Talbot was using it on everyone he could.

I noticed the hair pull as well. I also thought that if Turtlechuck had any respect for his opponent at all, he would have taken off his visored helmet. Wasn't that supposed to be automatic extra two minutes? Just like not having a jersey tied down or puck over the glass in your own d zone, I was lead to believe. Stop game management on auto calls zebras! Yes Kass should have gotten 5 for his fight too with that first incident.



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More acknowledgment of Draisaitl's contribution since he helped spark the second line.

https://www.nhl.com/news/leon-draisaitl-steven-stamkos-jt-mi ller-named-nhl-3-stars/c-314587012

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Ur, turns out I was wrong. The rule is to not remove your helmet for fear of heads hitting the ice. That's the new NHL for ya. Turtlechuck doing things right. Hahahaaa!


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I know I tend to like coaches early on and then eventually turn on them, but I still enjoy how Tippett is talking about McDavid in this interview (mostly in the last half of it)



Really hope this guy has staying power longer than a couple years (McLellan), or 1 month (Hitch) :)

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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 03 February 2020 21:28

I know I tend to like coaches early on and then eventually turn on them, but I still enjoy how Tippett is talking about McDavid in this interview (mostly in the last half of it)



Really hope this guy has staying power longer than a couple years (McLellan), or 1 month (Hitch) :)


It sure seems like the team has finally bought in to Tippett coaching. It helps we’ve filled some holes with our rookies, Lucic upgrade and the UFA PK trio, but this team has some bite.

I still believe we could use a goalie upgrade on Smith, but I don’t see that happening. We will go as far as our tending will take us.

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I found this incredibly funny:

“[My wife] was not happy with me after the game,” Talbot said. “She drove to the game and after that happened, I had to drive her car home. She ended up having a couple of drinks to try and settle herself down, she was so mad. Had a glass of wine and I had to drive her car home.”

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MJ wrote on Tue, 04 February 2020 08:46

I found this incredibly funny:

“[My wife] was not happy with me after the game,” Talbot said. “She drove to the game and after that happened, I had to drive her car home. She ended up having a couple of drinks to try and settle herself down, she was so mad. Had a glass of wine and I had to drive her car home.”

https://dailyhive.com/calgary/cam-talbot-wife-mad-flames-goa lie-fight?fbclid=IwAR2KARWTUhyOQvA4odvfVGD8XfpQCHXCl68DxdEe9 z0wWXhG1FwND52UnS8




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