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 Re: Review: Arizona @ Edmonton (Game #59) [message #731343 is a reply to message #731342 ]
Wed, 20 February 2019 21:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CrudeRemarks wrote on Wed, 20 February 2019 22:16

Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 20 February 2019 20:19

GabbyDugan wrote on Wed, 20 February 2019 21:14

Another factor could be that Stolarz does have arbitration rights this summer, according to copper and blue and cap friendly.

https://www.coppernblue.com/2019/2/15/18227214/oilers-trade- talbot-to-philly-for-stolarz

"Stolarz will be arbitration eligible at the end of this season, when he hit RFA status. (source: Cap Friendly)"


And his numbers aren't anything special, so I really can't see arbitration being a big issue for the Oilers with him.

The reality is the Oilers turned a Vezina candidate into an AHL goalie and will turn that AHl goalie into no return this offseason. And then they’ll make the guy that made that trade the GM for the next 3 years.

Oilers asset management is terrible. Has been for awhile, don’t see the end in sight with the current regime and OBC still around (even though the CEO and interim POHO says differently)

That said. Arbitration shouldn’t scare them away from playing Stolarz 30+ minutes in 10 games



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 Re: Review: Arizona @ Edmonton (Game #59) [message #731347 is a reply to message #731343 ]
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Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 20 February 2019 21:27

CrudeRemarks wrote on Wed, 20 February 2019 22:16

Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 20 February 2019 20:19

GabbyDugan wrote on Wed, 20 February 2019 21:14

Another factor could be that Stolarz does have arbitration rights this summer, according to copper and blue and cap friendly.

https://www.coppernblue.com/2019/2/15/18227214/oilers-trade- talbot-to-philly-for-stolarz

"Stolarz will be arbitration eligible at the end of this season, when he hit RFA status. (source: Cap Friendly)"


And his numbers aren't anything special, so I really can't see arbitration being a big issue for the Oilers with him.

The reality is the Oilers turned a Vezina candidate into an AHL goalie and will turn that AHl goalie into no return this offseason. And then they’ll make the guy that made that trade the GM for the next 3 years.

Oilers asset management is terrible. Has been for awhile, don’t see the end in sight with the current regime and OBC still around (even though the CEO and interim POHO says differently)

That said. Arbitration shouldn’t scare them away from playing Stolarz 30+ minutes in 10 games


If he doesn't play 10 games, he doesn't get arbitration rights, he simply gets to go wherever he wants...which one can reasonably assume isn't here...



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 Re: Review: Arizona @ Edmonton (Game #59) [message #731363 is a reply to message #731347 ]
Thu, 21 February 2019 09:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Adam wrote on Wed, 20 February 2019 22:28

Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 20 February 2019 21:27

CrudeRemarks wrote on Wed, 20 February 2019 22:16

Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 20 February 2019 20:19

GabbyDugan wrote on Wed, 20 February 2019 21:14

Another factor could be that Stolarz does have arbitration rights this summer, according to copper and blue and cap friendly.

https://www.coppernblue.com/2019/2/15/18227214/oilers-trade- talbot-to-philly-for-stolarz

"Stolarz will be arbitration eligible at the end of this season, when he hit RFA status. (source: Cap Friendly)"


And his numbers aren't anything special, so I really can't see arbitration being a big issue for the Oilers with him.

The reality is the Oilers turned a Vezina candidate into an AHL goalie and will turn that AHl goalie into no return this offseason. And then they’ll make the guy that made that trade the GM for the next 3 years.

Oilers asset management is terrible. Has been for awhile, don’t see the end in sight with the current regime and OBC still around (even though the CEO and interim POHO says differently)

That said. Arbitration shouldn’t scare them away from playing Stolarz 30+ minutes in 10 games


If he doesn't play 10 games, he doesn't get arbitration rights, he simply gets to go wherever he wants...which one can reasonably assume isn't here...


Again, so what? 3 weeks ago none of us ever knew this guy existed and now we want to get upset if he doesn't get to play in 10 games by the end of the season or he walks away as a UFA?



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 Re: Review: Arizona @ Edmonton (Game #59) [message #731365 is a reply to message #731347 ]
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Adam wrote on Wed, 20 February 2019 23:28

Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 20 February 2019 21:27

CrudeRemarks wrote on Wed, 20 February 2019 22:16

Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 20 February 2019 20:19

GabbyDugan wrote on Wed, 20 February 2019 21:14

Another factor could be that Stolarz does have arbitration rights this summer, according to copper and blue and cap friendly.

https://www.coppernblue.com/2019/2/15/18227214/oilers-trade- talbot-to-philly-for-stolarz

"Stolarz will be arbitration eligible at the end of this season, when he hit RFA status. (source: Cap Friendly)"


And his numbers aren't anything special, so I really can't see arbitration being a big issue for the Oilers with him.

The reality is the Oilers turned a Vezina candidate into an AHL goalie and will turn that AHl goalie into no return this offseason. And then they’ll make the guy that made that trade the GM for the next 3 years.

Oilers asset management is terrible. Has been for awhile, don’t see the end in sight with the current regime and OBC still around (even though the CEO and interim POHO says differently)

That said. Arbitration shouldn’t scare them away from playing Stolarz 30+ minutes in 10 games


If he doesn't play 10 games, he doesn't get arbitration rights, he simply gets to go wherever he wants...which one can reasonably assume isn't here...

Never know, he could see Edmonton as a get rich quick scheme



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 Re: Review: Arizona @ Edmonton (Game #59) [message #731362 is a reply to message #731328 ]
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Mullet wrote on Wed, 20 February 2019 19:18

Ufa you have less bargaining power. Why not keep it a team decision and have another asset? Do you really think koski can carry the mail?


Do you really think a UFA with a total of 19 games to his name has any bargaining power?

Look, the Oilers have made more than enough mistakes that we have to be dissecting the trade of an over-priced, under-performing UFA goalie for a young, un-proven, UFA goalie. The reality is that this is a nearly inconsequential move, with the caveat that it allows them to take a potential back up for next season for a test drive.



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 Re: Review: Arizona @ Edmonton (Game #59) [message #731304 is a reply to message #731281 ]
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Mullet wrote on Wed, 20 February 2019 13:22

I think that they should play stolarz so he doesn't become a UFA. If he doesn't get 10 more games he's out. Oilers need to give up on playoffs. Even yesterday they were talking about knowing in the next 3 games. So stuck on stupid.


Desperately needing wins at this point to improve ticket sales no doubt. I'd like to see the new guy play too. They are going to need a back up so why not him. He might prove to be a pretty good one. This illusion of possibly making the playoffs is just more team propaganda to keep the fans coming back.

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 Re: Review: Arizona @ Edmonton (Game #59) [message #731319 is a reply to message #731304 ]
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overdue wrote on Wed, 20 February 2019 15:40

Mullet wrote on Wed, 20 February 2019 13:22

I think that they should play stolarz so he doesn't become a UFA. If he doesn't get 10 more games he's out. Oilers need to give up on playoffs. Even yesterday they were talking about knowing in the next 3 games. So stuck on stupid.


Desperately needing wins at this point to improve ticket sales no doubt. I'd like to see the new guy play too. They are going to need a back up so why not him. He might prove to be a pretty good one. This illusion of possibly making the playoffs is just more team propaganda to keep the fans coming back.



Well, it's all so inconsistent.

If you're trading Talbot, you're giving up on the playoffs. It wasn't a trade they had to make, and he was playing better than Koskinen. Significantly better many nights.

If you're serious about making the playoffs, then you don't give up a goalie who can help you, especially when your other guy has been mediocre.

If you're giving up, then why not play the guy and get at least the right to keep him as a RFA? It gives you more options and you'll at least know what you have.

I do wonder a little bit if the real reason they traded Talbot is just to put an end to the discussions on how big a mistake the Koskinen deal was...if he continued to outplay Koskinen or got on a run that helped the Oilers get to the post-season, it would have been more egg on the face of those clowns running the show...



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 Re: Review: Arizona @ Edmonton (Game #59) [message #731321 is a reply to message #731319 ]
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Adam wrote on Wed, 20 February 2019 18:15

overdue wrote on Wed, 20 February 2019 15:40

Mullet wrote on Wed, 20 February 2019 13:22

I think that they should play stolarz so he doesn't become a UFA. If he doesn't get 10 more games he's out. Oilers need to give up on playoffs. Even yesterday they were talking about knowing in the next 3 games. So stuck on stupid.


Desperately needing wins at this point to improve ticket sales no doubt. I'd like to see the new guy play too. They are going to need a back up so why not him. He might prove to be a pretty good one. This illusion of possibly making the playoffs is just more team propaganda to keep the fans coming back.



Well, it's all so inconsistent.

If you're trading Talbot, you're giving up on the playoffs. It wasn't a trade they had to make, and he was playing better than Koskinen. Significantly better many nights.

If you're serious about making the playoffs, then you don't give up a goalie who can help you, especially when your other guy has been mediocre.

If you're giving up, then why not play the guy and get at least the right to keep him as a RFA? It gives you more options and you'll at least know what you have.

I do wonder a little bit if the real reason they traded Talbot is just to put an end to the discussions on how big a mistake the Koskinen deal was...if he continued to outplay Koskinen or got on a run that helped the Oilers get to the post-season, it would have been more egg on the face of those clowns running the show...


I think your final point there could have merit. Which could show the cojones of Bob’s Burgers in “we cant take the PR hit if he (Talbot) outperforms Koski (the guy we recently extended over him for absurd amount given his sample size)”.



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 Re: Review: Arizona @ Edmonton (Game #59) [message #731330 is a reply to message #731304 ]
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overdue wrote on Wed, 20 February 2019 15:40

Mullet wrote on Wed, 20 February 2019 13:22

I think that they should play stolarz so he doesn't become a UFA. If he doesn't get 10 more games he's out. Oilers need to give up on playoffs. Even yesterday they were talking about knowing in the next 3 games. So stuck on stupid.


Desperately needing wins at this point to improve ticket sales no doubt. I'd like to see the new guy play too. They are going to need a back up so why not him. He might prove to be a pretty good one. This illusion of possibly making the playoffs is just more team propaganda to keep the fans coming back.



Ticket sales don't matter this year as they are already sold put
Pain doesnt begin until renewals start in a week and you cant sell hope anymore so they are in deep trouble. No goalie can fix the mess this team is in.



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