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2018-19 Regular Season
Tuesday, October 16, 2018Edmonton 5 @ Winnipeg 4 (OT)Win
Thursday, December 13, 2018Edmonton 4 @ Winnipeg 5 (OT)Loss
Monday, December 31, 2018Winnipeg 4 @ Edmonton 3Loss
Home Record: 0-1-0       Road Record: 1-0-1       Overall Record: 1-1-1
Home / Road Goals For: 3/9 Total: 12
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Monday, October 9, 2017Winnipeg 5 @ Edmonton 2Loss
Wednesday, December 27, 2017Edmonton 3 @ Winnipeg 4Loss
Sunday, December 31, 2017Winnipeg 5 @ Edmonton 0Loss
Home Record: 0-2-0       Road Record: 0-1-0       Overall Record: 0-3-0
Home / Road Goals For: 2/3 Total: 5
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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32) [message #724868 is a reply to message #724858 ]
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Big game. Sounds like Talbot gets the start tonight. Koskinen got a shut out at home and was really good against the Avs. Pressure is on for Talbot to put up a real good effort if he wants more playing time. I am loving the goalie battle here. Good for the Oilers to have 2 guys playing really well trying to one up the other guy so they play more.

Oilers need to stay out of the box. They gave the Avs 5 chances and only gave up 1 PP goal.



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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32) [message #724873 is a reply to message #724858 ]
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Even though Winnipeg is the favorite I think if the Oilers lose then the whole defensive depth issue will be brought up to the forefront again. Klefbom is a huge loss, I'm hoping the Hitchcock support system can still mask it.

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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32) [message #724882 is a reply to message #724858 ]
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Sweet Jesus, the last pairing on D looks to be Garrison and Wideman. Let's hope that Hitch's system gives them some chance to avoid looking godawful....


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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32) [message #724913 is a reply to message #724882 ]
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Ragnarok73 wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 10:50

Sweet Jesus, the last pairing on D looks to be Garrison and Wideman. Let's hope that Hitch's system gives them some chance to avoid looking godawful....


Gonna be hard to hide those two on the road. Hitchcock knows how to handle it when your D is decimated, up to the staff to communicate and the players as 5 man units to execute.



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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32) [message #724883 is a reply to message #724858 ]
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Oilers pregame at WPG:

Chiasson-McDavid-Draisaitl
Khaira-RNH-Puljujarvi
Lucic-Brodziak-Kassian
Caggiula-Spooner-Rieder

Nurse-Larsson
Gravel-Benning
Garrison-Wideman

Russell & Jones, whose sticks showed up but not his hockey bag from last night’s flight, not on the ice.




Oh boy...that 3rd pair...

Nurse/Larsson better be jacking up on the carbs to get ready for 30+ tonight if that's what we're playing.



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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32) [message #724884 is a reply to message #724883 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 10:55

Garrison-Wideman


https://i.ibb.co/XXCM7GX/tenor.gif



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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32) [message #724886 is a reply to message #724884 ]
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I don't mind the forward line combos. If Caggulia AND Rieder are back in, that adds a lot of speed to the line up. What happened to Russell? I know he missed a little bit of last game but he played over 16 mins and finished the game. What happened?


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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32) [message #724887 is a reply to message #724884 ]
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WhoreableGuy wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 11:05

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 10:55

Garrison-Wideman


https://i.ibb.co/XXCM7GX/tenor.gif

The real question is, who drinks from a bottle by wrapping their whole mouth around the opening? That's the path to disgusting backwash... and a lot of it.

Must win, boo 3rd pairing, etc etch.



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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32) [message #724914 is a reply to message #724887 ]
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CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 11:11

WhoreableGuy wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 11:05

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 10:55

Garrison-Wideman


https://i.ibb.co/XXCM7GX/tenor.gif

The real question is, who drinks from a bottle by wrapping their whole mouth around the opening? That's the path to disgusting backwash... and a lot of it.

Must win, boo 3rd pairing, etc etch.


It doesn't matter if you don't intend to share.
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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32) [message #724885 is a reply to message #724883 ]
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It's really too bad Sekera has been virtually non-existent for 2 years. I'm not sure there is anybody in that group you can comfortably lean on more in these times.


Clean house or bust

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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32) [message #724890 is a reply to message #724883 ]
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Benning seems to get pretty gassed when he is on the ice for too long, not good to have to play him any further up than 3rd pairing.Gravel has been a pleasant surprise but from what I've seen of Wideman, not impressed. Maybe playing more will bring more out of him. Garrison is what he is, lots of experience but foot speed is an issue now.


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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32) [message #724892 is a reply to message #724883 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 10:55

Jack Michaels @EdmontonJack
Oilers pregame at WPG:

Chiasson-McDavid-Draisaitl
Khaira-RNH-Puljujarvi
Lucic-Brodziak-Kassian
Caggiula-Spooner-Rieder

Nurse-Larsson
Gravel-Benning
Garrison-Wideman

Russell & Jones, whose sticks showed up but not his hockey bag from last night’s flight, not on the ice.




Oh boy...that 3rd pair...

Nurse/Larsson better be jacking up on the carbs to get ready for 30+ tonight if that's what we're playing.


Wow...that's a Bisaillon-esque defence corps. Everyone playing over their head from the looks of it. Hopefully our forwards are good tonight!

Also not quite Bisaillon-esque:

March 19 & 21, 2007
Jason Smith - Ladi Smid
Matt Greene - Toby Peterson
Bryan Young - Sebastien Bisaillon

You'll be shocked to learn we lost those games by an aggregate score of 7-2...



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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32) [message #724895 is a reply to message #724892 ]
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Adam wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 10:35

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 10:55

Jack Michaels @EdmontonJack
Oilers pregame at WPG:

Chiasson-McDavid-Draisaitl
Khaira-RNH-Puljujarvi
Lucic-Brodziak-Kassian
Caggiula-Spooner-Rieder

Nurse-Larsson
Gravel-Benning
Garrison-Wideman

Russell & Jones, whose sticks showed up but not his hockey bag from last night’s flight, not on the ice.




Oh boy...that 3rd pair...

Nurse/Larsson better be jacking up on the carbs to get ready for 30+ tonight if that's what we're playing.


Wow...that's a Bisaillon-esque defence corps. Everyone playing over their head from the looks of it. Hopefully our forwards are good tonight!

Also not quite Bisaillon-esque:

March 19 & 21, 2007
Jason Smith - Ladi Smid
Matt Greene - Toby Peterson
Bryan Young - Sebastien Bisaillon

You'll be shocked to learn we lost those games by an aggregate score of 7-2...


More shocking is that we had a forward playing D, and in the top 4 no less! What a statement about the organizational defensive depth at the time.



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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32) [message #724896 is a reply to message #724895 ]
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jds308 wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 11:41

Adam wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 10:35

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 10:55

Jack Michaels @EdmontonJack
Oilers pregame at WPG:

Chiasson-McDavid-Draisaitl
Khaira-RNH-Puljujarvi
Lucic-Brodziak-Kassian
Caggiula-Spooner-Rieder

Nurse-Larsson
Gravel-Benning
Garrison-Wideman

Russell & Jones, whose sticks showed up but not his hockey bag from last night’s flight, not on the ice.




Oh boy...that 3rd pair...

Nurse/Larsson better be jacking up on the carbs to get ready for 30+ tonight if that's what we're playing.


Wow...that's a Bisaillon-esque defence corps. Everyone playing over their head from the looks of it. Hopefully our forwards are good tonight!

Also not quite Bisaillon-esque:

March 19 & 21, 2007
Jason Smith - Ladi Smid
Matt Greene - Toby Peterson
Bryan Young - Sebastien Bisaillon

You'll be shocked to learn we lost those games by an aggregate score of 7-2...


More shocking is that we had a forward playing D, and in the top 4 no less! What a statement about the organizational defensive depth at the time.

In fairness, that was the year the Oilers had everyone injured at the end of the season. It took quite a while before they have to recall Bisaillon (one of my favorite obscure Oilers).



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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32) [message #724899 is a reply to message #724895 ]
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jds308 wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 11:41

Adam wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 10:35

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 10:55

Jack Michaels @EdmontonJack
Oilers pregame at WPG:

Chiasson-McDavid-Draisaitl
Khaira-RNH-Puljujarvi
Lucic-Brodziak-Kassian
Caggiula-Spooner-Rieder

Nurse-Larsson
Gravel-Benning
Garrison-Wideman

Russell & Jones, whose sticks showed up but not his hockey bag from last night’s flight, not on the ice.




Oh boy...that 3rd pair...

Nurse/Larsson better be jacking up on the carbs to get ready for 30+ tonight if that's what we're playing.


Wow...that's a Bisaillon-esque defence corps. Everyone playing over their head from the looks of it. Hopefully our forwards are good tonight!

Also not quite Bisaillon-esque:

March 19 & 21, 2007
Jason Smith - Ladi Smid
Matt Greene - Toby Peterson
Bryan Young - Sebastien Bisaillon

You'll be shocked to learn we lost those games by an aggregate score of 7-2...


More shocking is that we had a forward playing D, and in the top 4 no less! What a statement about the organizational defensive depth at the time.


To be fair, we'd had a horrendous run of injuries.

I also fully believe that was the only year that the Oilers full-on decided to tank. There was no rush to bring anyone back from injuries and MacTavish had a passive forecheck employed even late in games where we were trailing by a single goal. By the time of the Smyth trade, the team had decided they were getting the best draft pick they could...



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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32) [message #724901 is a reply to message #724899 ]
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Adam wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 11:46

jds308 wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 11:41

Adam wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 10:35

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 10:55

Jack Michaels @EdmontonJack
Oilers pregame at WPG:

Chiasson-McDavid-Draisaitl
Khaira-RNH-Puljujarvi
Lucic-Brodziak-Kassian
Caggiula-Spooner-Rieder

Nurse-Larsson
Gravel-Benning
Garrison-Wideman

Russell & Jones, whose sticks showed up but not his hockey bag from last night’s flight, not on the ice.




Oh boy...that 3rd pair...

Nurse/Larsson better be jacking up on the carbs to get ready for 30+ tonight if that's what we're playing.


Wow...that's a Bisaillon-esque defence corps. Everyone playing over their head from the looks of it. Hopefully our forwards are good tonight!

Also not quite Bisaillon-esque:

March 19 & 21, 2007
Jason Smith - Ladi Smid
Matt Greene - Toby Peterson
Bryan Young - Sebastien Bisaillon

You'll be shocked to learn we lost those games by an aggregate score of 7-2...


More shocking is that we had a forward playing D, and in the top 4 no less! What a statement about the organizational defensive depth at the time.


To be fair, we'd had a horrendous run of injuries.

I also fully believe that was the only year that the Oilers full-on decided to tank. There was no rush to bring anyone back from injuries and MacTavish had a passive forecheck employed even late in games where we were trailing by a single goal. By the time of the Smyth trade, the team had decided they were getting the best draft pick they could...

The Oilers tanked and ended up getting Sam Gagner 6th overall, Alex Plante, and Riley Nash in the first round. I'm starting to think the tanking strategy was a poor one.

Defense used that year:

76	Bryan Young	D	15	0	0	0	10	-8	
60	Seb Bisaillon	D	2	0	0	0	0	-1	
40	Danny Syvret	D	16	0	1	1	6	-10	
36	Mathieu Roy	D	16	2	0	2	30	-7	
77	Tom Gilbert	D	12	1	5	6	0	-1	
25	Jan Hejda	D	39	1	8	9	20	-6	--	
2	Matt Greene	D	78	1	9	10	109	-22	
5	Ladislav Smid	D	77	3	7	10	37	-16	
21	Jason Smith	D	82	2	9	11	103	-13	
29	Dan Tjarnqvist	D	37	3	12	15	30	3	
47	MA Bergeron 	D	55	8	17	25	28	-9	


Honestly, I'd rather have a Bisaillon #60 jersey than almost anything else right now. I have fifty Canadian dollar ready, right now, if you have one hanging in a closet.

[Updated on: Thu, 13 December 2018 11:57]


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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #32) [message #724903 is a reply to message #724899 ]
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Adam wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 10:46

jds308 wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 11:41

Adam wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 10:35

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 10:55

Jack Michaels @EdmontonJack
Oilers pregame at WPG:

Chiasson-McDavid-Draisaitl
Khaira-RNH-Puljujarvi
Lucic-Brodziak-Kassian
Caggiula-Spooner-Rieder

Nurse-Larsson
Gravel-Benning
Garrison-Wideman

Russell & Jones, whose sticks showed up but not his hockey bag from last night’s flight, not on the ice.




Oh boy...that 3rd pair...

Nurse/Larsson better be jacking up on the carbs to get ready for 30+ tonight if that's what we're playing.


Wow...that's a Bisaillon-esque defence corps. Everyone playing over their head from the looks of it. Hopefully our forwards are good tonight!

Also not quite Bisaillon-esque:

March 19 & 21, 2007
Jason Smith - Ladi Smid
Matt Greene - Toby Peterson
Bryan Young - Sebastien Bisaillon

You'll be shocked to learn we lost those games by an aggregate score of 7-2...


More shocking is that we had a forward playing D, and in the top 4 no less! What a statement about the organizational defensive depth at the time.


To be fair, we'd had a horrendous run of injuries.

I also fully believe that was the only year that the Oilers full-on decided to tank. There was no rush to bring anyone back from injuries and MacTavish had a passive forecheck employed even late in games where we were trailing by a single goal. By the time of the Smyth trade, the team had decided they were getting the best draft pick they could...


Yeah, didn't they only win 1 game the rest of that season post Smyth trade? I remember thinking that was rock bottom but oh man, did it ever get worse.

Toby Peterson was also one of MacT's favorites.



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jds308 wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 12:02

Adam wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 10:46

jds308 wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 11:41

Adam wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 10:35

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 10:55

Jack Michaels @EdmontonJack
Oilers pregame at WPG:

Chiasson-McDavid-Draisaitl
Khaira-RNH-Puljujarvi
Lucic-Brodziak-Kassian
Caggiula-Spooner-Rieder

Nurse-Larsson
Gravel-Benning
Garrison-Wideman

Russell & Jones, whose sticks showed up but not his hockey bag from last night’s flight, not on the ice.




Oh boy...that 3rd pair...

Nurse/Larsson better be jacking up on the carbs to get ready for 30+ tonight if that's what we're playing.


Wow...that's a Bisaillon-esque defence corps. Everyone playing over their head from the looks of it. Hopefully our forwards are good tonight!

Also not quite Bisaillon-esque:

March 19 & 21, 2007
Jason Smith - Ladi Smid
Matt Greene - Toby Peterson
Bryan Young - Sebastien Bisaillon

You'll be shocked to learn we lost those games by an aggregate score of 7-2...


More shocking is that we had a forward playing D, and in the top 4 no less! What a statement about the organizational defensive depth at the time.


To be fair, we'd had a horrendous run of injuries.

I also fully believe that was the only year that the Oilers full-on decided to tank. There was no rush to bring anyone back from injuries and MacTavish had a passive forecheck employed even late in games where we were trailing by a single goal. By the time of the Smyth trade, the team had decided they were getting the best draft pick they could...


Yeah, didn't they only win 1 game the rest of that season post Smyth trade? I remember thinking that was rock bottom but oh man, did it ever get worse.

Toby Peterson was also one of MacT's favorites.


Two wins after the Feb 27 trade deadline - one in a shootout. Managed to get the single point in one other game.

Pretty dreadful stretch of hockey, but also highly amusing. I loved when they claimed Lupul was deathly ill so they could keep Nilsson up on emergency recall a couple more nights, only to have photos of Lupul making out at a bar show up, complete with time stamp, the next day.

https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/EDM/2007_games.html

FWIW, I think Syvret also played in at least one of the Bisaillon games, so maybe Peterson got to play forward (and the point on PP1) there...



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Adam wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 11:17

jds308 wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 12:02

Adam wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 10:46

jds308 wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 11:41

Adam wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 10:35

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 10:55

Jack Michaels @EdmontonJack
Oilers pregame at WPG:

Chiasson-McDavid-Draisaitl
Khaira-RNH-Puljujarvi
Lucic-Brodziak-Kassian
Caggiula-Spooner-Rieder

Nurse-Larsson
Gravel-Benning
Garrison-Wideman

Russell & Jones, whose sticks showed up but not his hockey bag from last night’s flight, not on the ice.




Oh boy...that 3rd pair...

Nurse/Larsson better be jacking up on the carbs to get ready for 30+ tonight if that's what we're playing.


Wow...that's a Bisaillon-esque defence corps. Everyone playing over their head from the looks of it. Hopefully our forwards are good tonight!

Also not quite Bisaillon-esque:

March 19 & 21, 2007
Jason Smith - Ladi Smid
Matt Greene - Toby Peterson
Bryan Young - Sebastien Bisaillon

You'll be shocked to learn we lost those games by an aggregate score of 7-2...


More shocking is that we had a forward playing D, and in the top 4 no less! What a statement about the organizational defensive depth at the time.


To be fair, we'd had a horrendous run of injuries.

I also fully believe that was the only year that the Oilers full-on decided to tank. There was no rush to bring anyone back from injuries and MacTavish had a passive forecheck employed even late in games where we were trailing by a single goal. By the time of the Smyth trade, the team had decided they were getting the best draft pick they could...


Yeah, didn't they only win 1 game the rest of that season post Smyth trade? I remember thinking that was rock bottom but oh man, did it ever get worse.

Toby Peterson was also one of MacT's favorites.


Two wins after the Feb 27 trade deadline - one in a shootout. Managed to get the single point in one other game.

Pretty dreadful stretch of hockey, but also highly amusing. I loved when they claimed Lupul was deathly ill so they could keep Nilsson up on emergency recall a couple more nights, only to have photos of Lupul making out at a bar show up, complete with time stamp, the next day.

https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/EDM/2007_games.html

FWIW, I think Syvret also played in at least one of the Bisaillon games, so maybe Peterson got to play forward (and the point on PP1) there...


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jds308 wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 12:38

Adam wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 11:17

jds308 wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 12:02

Adam wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 10:46

jds308 wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 11:41

Adam wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 10:35

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 10:55

Jack Michaels @EdmontonJack
Oilers pregame at WPG:

Chiasson-McDavid-Draisaitl
Khaira-RNH-Puljujarvi
Lucic-Brodziak-Kassian
Caggiula-Spooner-Rieder

Nurse-Larsson
Gravel-Benning
Garrison-Wideman

Russell & Jones, whose sticks showed up but not his hockey bag from last night’s flight, not on the ice.




Oh boy...that 3rd pair...

Nurse/Larsson better be jacking up on the carbs to get ready for 30+ tonight if that's what we're playing.


Wow...that's a Bisaillon-esque defence corps. Everyone playing over their head from the looks of it. Hopefully our forwards are good tonight!

Also not quite Bisaillon-esque:

March 19 & 21, 2007
Jason Smith - Ladi Smid
Matt Greene - Toby Peterson
Bryan Young - Sebastien Bisaillon

You'll be shocked to learn we lost those games by an aggregate score of 7-2...


More shocking is that we had a forward playing D, and in the top 4 no less! What a statement about the organizational defensive depth at the time.


To be fair, we'd had a horrendous run of injuries.

I also fully believe that was the only year that the Oilers full-on decided to tank. There was no rush to bring anyone back from injuries and MacTavish had a passive forecheck employed even late in games where we were trailing by a single goal. By the time of the Smyth trade, the team had decided they were getting the best draft pick they could...


Yeah, didn't they only win 1 game the rest of that season post Smyth trade? I remember thinking that was rock bottom but oh man, did it ever get worse.

Toby Peterson was also one of MacT's favorites.


Two wins after the Feb 27 trade deadline - one in a shootout. Managed to get the single point in one other game.

Pretty dreadful stretch of hockey, but also highly amusing. I loved when they claimed Lupul was deathly ill so they could keep Nilsson up on emergency recall a couple more nights, only to have photos of Lupul making out at a bar show up, complete with time stamp, the next day.

https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/EDM/2007_games.html

FWIW, I think Syvret also played in at least one of the Bisaillon games, so maybe Peterson got to play forward (and the point on PP1) there...


Being an Oilers fan is much like being in an unhealthy relationship.

Being an Oilers fan can definitely not be easy. But at the same time it doesn't help that fans can't let anything go. Why is there a discussion in a game day thread about defense pairings from 11 yrs ago with guys you might all be long retired? They are currently down 3 guys who could be top 4 dmen. How many teams can replace that many guys with truly quality guys EVER?



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Being an Oilers fan can definitely not be easy. But at the same time it doesn't help that fans can't let anything go. Why is there a discussion in a game day thread about defense pairings from 11 yrs ago with guys you might all be long retired? They are currently down 3 guys who could be top 4 dmen. How many teams can replace that many guys with truly quality guys EVER?


Three reasons:

1) This defence corps today recalls some of the worst ones we've dressed. The one highlighted was a little special because the Oilers were so depleted that they needed to reach out to some kid playing in the Q to come up and play the only NHL games he'd ever play. Bisaillon only ended up playing 54 AHL games in his career, so it's a bit fascinating we had to stretch that far.

2) Tangents happen, especially amongst a group of super-fans who all remember watching that era.

3) The management responsible for the poor depth of 11 years ago is largely still in place today...as we look at depth issues once more.



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Adam wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 13:07

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 13:01


Being an Oilers fan can definitely not be easy. But at the same time it doesn't help that fans can't let anything go. Why is there a discussion in a game day thread about defense pairings from 11 yrs ago with guys you might all be long retired? They are currently down 3 guys who could be top 4 dmen. How many teams can replace that many guys with truly quality guys EVER?


Three reasons:

1) This defence corps today recalls some of the worst ones we've dressed. The one highlighted was a little special because the Oilers were so depleted that they needed to reach out to some kid playing in the Q to come up and play the only NHL games he'd ever play. Bisaillon only ended up playing 54 AHL games in his career, so it's a bit fascinating we had to stretch that far.

2) Tangents happen, especially amongst a group of super-fans who all remember watching that era.

3) The management responsible for the poor depth of 11 years ago is largely still in place today...as we look at depth issues once more.


So if the Jets all at once were without 3 of:
Byfuglien, Trouba, Myers and Morrissey, who are these unbelievable players they would have at their disposal who can just step in and you won't notice a difference?

I get it. Management sucks. The Oilers defense isn't that great. I understand and agree with all of it. But what team in the league can lose 3 top 4 dmen and just replace them with guys who are just as good like EVER? I would honestly love to know because I don't have that answer.

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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 13:37

Adam wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 13:07

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 13:01


Being an Oilers fan can definitely not be easy. But at the same time it doesn't help that fans can't let anything go. Why is there a discussion in a game day thread about defense pairings from 11 yrs ago with guys you might all be long retired? They are currently down 3 guys who could be top 4 dmen. How many teams can replace that many guys with truly quality guys EVER?


Three reasons:

1) This defence corps today recalls some of the worst ones we've dressed. The one highlighted was a little special because the Oilers were so depleted that they needed to reach out to some kid playing in the Q to come up and play the only NHL games he'd ever play. Bisaillon only ended up playing 54 AHL games in his career, so it's a bit fascinating we had to stretch that far.

2) Tangents happen, especially amongst a group of super-fans who all remember watching that era.

3) The management responsible for the poor depth of 11 years ago is largely still in place today...as we look at depth issues once more.


So if the Jets all at once were without 3 of:
Byfuglien, Trouba, Myers and Morrissey, who are these unbelievable players they would have at their disposal who can just step in and you won't notice a difference?

I get it. Management sucks. The Oilers defense isn't that great. I understand and agree with all of it. But what team in the league can lose 3 top 4 dmen and just replace them with guys who are just as good like EVER? I would honestly love to know because I don't have that answer.


Besides, don't you find the Bisaillon story somewhat fascinating?



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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 13:37

Adam wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 13:07

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 13:01


Being an Oilers fan can definitely not be easy. But at the same time it doesn't help that fans can't let anything go. Why is there a discussion in a game day thread about defense pairings from 11 yrs ago with guys you might all be long retired? They are currently down 3 guys who could be top 4 dmen. How many teams can replace that many guys with truly quality guys EVER?


Three reasons:

1) This defence corps today recalls some of the worst ones we've dressed. The one highlighted was a little special because the Oilers were so depleted that they needed to reach out to some kid playing in the Q to come up and play the only NHL games he'd ever play. Bisaillon only ended up playing 54 AHL games in his career, so it's a bit fascinating we had to stretch that far.

2) Tangents happen, especially amongst a group of super-fans who all remember watching that era.

3) The management responsible for the poor depth of 11 years ago is largely still in place today...as we look at depth issues once more.


So if the Jets all at once were without 3 of:
Byfuglien, Trouba, Myers and Morrissey, who are these unbelievable players they would have at their disposal who can just step in and you won't notice a difference?

I get it. Management sucks. The Oilers defense isn't that great. I understand and agree with all of it. But what team in the league can lose 3 top 4 dmen and just replace them with guys who are just as good like EVER? I would honestly love to know because I don't have that answer.

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CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 13:49

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 13:37

Adam wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 13:07

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 13:01


Being an Oilers fan can definitely not be easy. But at the same time it doesn't help that fans can't let anything go. Why is there a discussion in a game day thread about defense pairings from 11 yrs ago with guys you might all be long retired? They are currently down 3 guys who could be top 4 dmen. How many teams can replace that many guys with truly quality guys EVER?


Three reasons:

1) This defence corps today recalls some of the worst ones we've dressed. The one highlighted was a little special because the Oilers were so depleted that they needed to reach out to some kid playing in the Q to come up and play the only NHL games he'd ever play. Bisaillon only ended up playing 54 AHL games in his career, so it's a bit fascinating we had to stretch that far.

2) Tangents happen, especially amongst a group of super-fans who all remember watching that era.

3) The management responsible for the poor depth of 11 years ago is largely still in place today...as we look at depth issues once more.


So if the Jets all at once were without 3 of:
Byfuglien, Trouba, Myers and Morrissey, who are these unbelievable players they would have at their disposal who can just step in and you won't notice a difference?

I get it. Management sucks. The Oilers defense isn't that great. I understand and agree with all of it. But what team in the league can lose 3 top 4 dmen and just replace them with guys who are just as good like EVER? I would honestly love to know because I don't have that answer.

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If the Jets come out and score 2 bad goals in 4 shots, I’m going to be critical of the goaltending decision. Koskinen is dialed in and has the teams confidence in him.

If the Oilers win he’s either a genius or lucky. The type of win will determine that.



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With the defense a little banged up, my guess is the conversation between McDavid and Hitch goes something like this.

McD: "Listen Hitch I've been thinking. With the D all banged up, if you don't want me messing with scoring no more, we will make out some other thing defensively that I can do."

Hitch: "Connor, there is one thing I want you to do for me. Win. WIN!!!"

Connor's eyes get all big. A smirk on his face. Leon fires up some pump up music. Connor starts doing 1 armed pull ups and push ups then goes on to score 5 goals, 2 assists tonight to lead the Oilers to a 7-5 victory.

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If the Jets come out and score 2 bad goals in 4 shots, I’m going to be critical of the goaltending decision. Koskinen is dialed in and has the teams confidence in him.

If the Oilers win he’s either a genius or lucky. The type of win will determine that.



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It's a back to back, Talbot was going to play either tonight or tomorrow. I'd save Koski for the weaker team too.



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NetBOG wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 13:23

g2k wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 11:45

If the Jets come out and score 2 bad goals in 4 shots, I’m going to be critical of the goaltending decision. Koskinen is dialed in and has the teams confidence in him.

If the Oilers win he’s either a genius or lucky. The type of win will determine that.



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It's a back to back, Talbot was going to play either tonight or tomorrow. I'd save Koski for the weaker team too.

I would try to win both games, not just somewhat assure I win one.



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g2k wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 13:55

NetBOG wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 13:23

g2k wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 11:45

If the Jets come out and score 2 bad goals in 4 shots, I’m going to be critical of the goaltending decision. Koskinen is dialed in and has the teams confidence in him.

If the Oilers win he’s either a genius or lucky. The type of win will determine that.



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It's a back to back, Talbot was going to play either tonight or tomorrow. I'd save Koski for the weaker team too.

I would try to win both games, not just somewhat assure I win one.


Even with that D-Corps??? Haha...

Maybe this is part of Hitchcock's plan to salvage Talbot's confidence. Say we aren't scared to give you these starts, since we know you have done them in the past. You might be playing less, but you're not less important...

Talbot's played pretty well under Hitchcock, so maybe some of the struggles were a McLellan issue - either systems-wise, or simply confidence and the coach/goalie relationship...



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Adam wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 14:00

g2k wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 13:55

NetBOG wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 13:23

g2k wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 11:45

If the Jets come out and score 2 bad goals in 4 shots, I’m going to be critical of the goaltending decision. Koskinen is dialed in and has the teams confidence in him.

If the Oilers win he’s either a genius or lucky. The type of win will determine that.



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It's a back to back, Talbot was going to play either tonight or tomorrow. I'd save Koski for the weaker team too.

I would try to win both games, not just somewhat assure I win one.


Even with that D-Corps??? Haha...

Maybe this is part of Hitchcock's plan to salvage Talbot's confidence. Say we aren't scared to give you these starts, since we know you have done them in the past. You might be playing less, but you're not less important...

Talbot's played pretty well under Hitchcock, so maybe some of the struggles were a McLellan issue - either systems-wise, or simply confidence and the coach/goalie relationship...

I forgot Oscar is gone.

With that being said, chances of a win tonight are much slimmer yet.

I’m all for making the more winnable game a must win game. If the Jets lay a stinker tonight it’s found money, I guess.



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NetBOG wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 13:23

g2k wrote on Thu, 13 December 2018 11:45

If the Jets come out and score 2 bad goals in 4 shots, I’m going to be critical of the goaltending decision. Koskinen is dialed in and has the teams confidence in him.

If the Oilers win he’s either a genius or lucky. The type of win will determine that.



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It's a back to back, Talbot was going to play either tonight or tomorrow. I'd save Koski for the weaker team too.

To support your argument, Koskinen has a tidy home record.



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Jets PP is almost 36% at home. I suggest taking very few penalties.


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