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 Penguins shopping Letang? [message #705945]
Tue, 26 December 2017 12:51 Go to next message
NetBOG  is currently offline NetBOG
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http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/penguins-looking-make-big -splash-nhl-trade-freeze-ends/

30 years old. 4 Years at $7.5 Million per year left. Penguins want two forwards in return.

He is injury prone, having a bad season (and still on pace for 50+ points!!!), but he is the magical unicorn (right shot defenceman) the Oilers are continually looking for.



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 Re: Penguins shopping Letang? [message #705946 is a reply to message #705945 ]
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Yikes, really don't like the idea of getting him. I think we should follow the Pens lead. They realized they can win without him by having 3 solid lines and D that are just good at getting the puck in the hands of forwards ASAP in their own end. Pens are desperate now to recreate what they had last year with Bonino on their roster. Kessel has no one to play with on a 3rd line now.

We do need a good right shot PP specialist at some point, but not with Letang's price tag.



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 Re: Penguins shopping Letang? [message #705947 is a reply to message #705946 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 26 December 2017 11:59

Yikes, really don't like the idea of getting him. I think we should follow the Pens lead. They realized they can win without him by having 3 solid lines and D that are just good at getting the puck in the hands of forwards ASAP in their own end. Pens are desperate now to recreate what they had last year with Bonino on their roster. Kessel has no one to play with on a 3rd line now.

We do need a good right shot PP specialist at some point, but not with Letang's price tag.


And as NetBOG pointed out, he's only averaged 54 games over the past 6 years (with a pro-rated 60 games in the lockout year), with a high of 71 games. 41 last year.

Good player for sure, but just too much risk for a guy on the wrong side of 30.



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 Re: Penguins shopping Letang? [message #705949 is a reply to message #705945 ]
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https://www.tsn.ca/talent/letang-s-struggles-lie-in-unlucky- percentages-1.952610

An article from the TSN stats nerd saying that he just might be having an unlucky year. Pens are an awful team that have been saved by a solid PP.



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 Re: Penguins shopping Letang? [message #705950 is a reply to message #705949 ]
Tue, 26 December 2017 14:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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NetBOG wrote on Tue, 26 December 2017 14:20

https://www.tsn.ca/talent/letang-s-struggles-lie-in-unlucky- percentages-1.952610

An article from the TSN stats nerd saying that he just might be having an unlucky year. Pens are an awful team that have been saved by a solid PP.


Yeah, pens whole season so far is basically what happened to us for the first 20 games. Crazy low shooting % 5v5. Goalies bombing too. Unlike us though, they were able to keep a winning record with their PP, while we just kept waiting for Letestu magic.

Letang can be great. Pens know they can win without him though, so makes sense to try to move him while he still has a good reputation. Definitely costs way too much for us. I'd rather we bolstered the wings at this point than try to make a big gamble on D. Our PP needs to be solved by the coaches and in practice.

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 Re: Penguins shopping Letang? [message #705953 is a reply to message #705945 ]
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His price tag, both cap hit and assets required, is not a great plan for long term, especially as he may be on the down slide.. pass..


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 Re: Penguins shopping Letang? [message #706750 is a reply to message #705953 ]
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PC loves to over pay so I'm sure he is close to getting it done.


So this is what hope feels like?

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 Re: Penguins shopping Letang? [message #706755 is a reply to message #705953 ]
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Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 26 December 2017 17:16

His price tag, both cap hit and assets required, is not a great plan for long term, especially as he may be on the down slide.. pass..


Tied in for four more seasons too...we really can't take on many more of these long-term defencemen contracts unless it is precisely the right guy.

Maybe if the Pens keep half the contract...



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 Re: Penguins shopping Letang? [message #706768 is a reply to message #706755 ]
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With Letang's injury history, I would be really leery of him.


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 Re: Penguins shopping Letang? [message #706769 is a reply to message #706755 ]
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Adam wrote on Mon, 08 January 2018 12:54

Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 26 December 2017 17:16

His price tag, both cap hit and assets required, is not a great plan for long term, especially as he may be on the down slide.. pass..


Tied in for four more seasons too...we really can't take on many more of these long-term defencemen contracts unless it is precisely the right guy.

Maybe if the Pens keep half the contract...

Who does Chiarelli trade for Letang? Hall? Nuge? Eberle? Ummmm, the Oilers are kind of out of high end players after that.



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 Re: Penguins shopping Letang? [message #707282 is a reply to message #706769 ]
Tue, 16 January 2018 14:22 Go to previous message
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Supposedly it was the Pens that offered Letang for RNH


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