"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.

Generally Disappointed.

"There's no greater springboard to development than failure." - Craig MacTavish, April 13/15.

5-14-6-1

"Sabres think the suck is their ally? They merely adopted the suck. The Oilers were born in it...molded by it."

NetBOG wrote on Fri, 03 July 2015 10:18

for what it's worth, the Oilers signed Connor McDavid to a 3 year entry level deal this morning.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

"[It was] really cool to throw on the Oilers gear, the gear that I want to play the rest of my life wearing. It was pretty cool to put it on. With all the history, it was a lot of fun." - Connor McDavid, July 1, 2015

Peter Chiarelli @FakeOilersGM
I'll never wash my right hand again!

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

"There's no greater springboard to development than failure." - Craig MacTavish, April 13/15.

5-14-6-1

"Sabres think the suck is their ally? They merely adopted the suck. The Oilers were born in it...molded by it."

Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

nullterm wrote on Fri, 03 July 2015 13:51

CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 03 July 2015 12:35 This new idol worshipping makes me vaguely uncomfortable. Do we have a resident shrink here at Oilfans to tell me why I feel like this? Or am I forever jaded? Yeah, makes me uncomfortable too. Even if he's gonna score a bajillion goals, let the kid be a kid, not a supernatural entity.

Stop your blasphemy non-believers!



I'm sure people on here would be a lot cooler if we knew McDavid visited the forums, but for now, this is a safe place for everyone to put super unrealistic expectations on an 18 year old :)

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

"There's no greater springboard to development than failure." - Craig MacTavish, April 13/15.

5-14-6-1

"Sabres think the suck is their ally? They merely adopted the suck. The Oilers were born in it...molded by it."

nullterm wrote on Fri, 03 July 2015 13:51

CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 03 July 2015 12:35 This new idol worshipping makes me vaguely uncomfortable. Do we have a resident shrink here at Oilfans to tell me why I feel like this? Or am I forever jaded? Yeah, makes me uncomfortable too. Even if he's gonna score a bajillion goals, let the kid be a kid, not a supernatural entity.

here you go, a new level of discomfort for everyone:

ActuallyBetter @Isuckatpicking
In case you missed it the statue of McDavid is ready for the opening of Rogers Place. #Oilers

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireLowe #FireBobbyNicks #FireKenHolland #FireKeithGretzky

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

[Updated on: Fri, 03 July 2015 15:30]

The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.

Generally Disappointed.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

"Bah Gawd! Would somebody stop the damn draft!"

- Jim Ross calling the NHL Draft Lotto 2015 as the Oilers win

Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireLowe #FireBobbyNicks #FireKenHolland #FireKeithGretzky

Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.

[Updated on: Tue, 21 July 2015 08:32]

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

Strategy - wait for three years for someone to let their franchise player drop.

Solid.

2015/2016 - This Kool-Aid tastes like McDavid flavoured Drain-O.
2016/2017 - This Kool-Aid is starting to taste like juice.
2017/2018 - I'm drinking this Kool-Aid, in hopes that it's Drain-O.
2018/2019 - Another round of Drain-O, good sir!

Magnum wrote on Tue, 21 July 2015 08:46

Strategy - wait for three years for someone to let their franchise player drop. Solid.

It's almost like what the Oilers did, except the focus was on junior teams from Erie, Red Deer, Sarnia, and London.

Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.

2015/2016 - This Kool-Aid tastes like McDavid flavoured Drain-O.
2016/2017 - This Kool-Aid is starting to taste like juice.
2017/2018 - I'm drinking this Kool-Aid, in hopes that it's Drain-O.
2018/2019 - Another round of Drain-O, good sir!

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

This forum has turned into a pessimistic cesspool of bitching and whining about the same topics consistently.

#Adam #Kr55 #CrusaderPi #inverno76

#RDOilerfan is possibly reformed, time will tell.

Clean house or bust

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

"Bah Gawd! Would somebody stop the damn draft!"

- Jim Ross calling the NHL Draft Lotto 2015 as the Oilers win

McDavid Points in 2015-16[ 42 vote(s) ]
1.	<39	0 / 0%
2.	40-49	1 / 2%
3.	50-59	9 / 21%
4.	60-69	9 / 21%
5.	70-79	14 / 33%
6.	80-89	7 / 17%
7.	90+	2 / 5%

On the topic of Magnums next attempt at a meal paid for by Adam, I'm wondering what everyone's expectations are for McDavid this year.

Just some perspective comparing to the last "generational talent" that came into the NHL. Sid the kid scored 102 points his rookie year, but that was a year Thornton managed 125 for the Art Ross. Last year Benn won the Art Ross with 87 points, so things have changed a lot since 2006.

Sid was still 6th in NHL scoring in 2006 which was damn impressive (79 points is what would have been needed last season to be 6th in the NHL), but gotta also remember he was their #1 offensive weapon right from the start of his career. Top PP line, all the offensive situations his cardio would allow him to play, so he was given every chance to score points every night. Might be different for McDavid because we have the luxury of putting him behind a number of good young offensive players.

I'm thinking McDavid could crack 70 points, which might put him in the top 20 in the NHL. That would probably mean he's taking a lot of offensive minutes away from Nuge and Nuge is starting to play a more defensive minded role.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireLowe #FireBobbyNicks #FireKenHolland #FireKeithGretzky

Pseudoreality wrote on Tue, 18 August 2015 11:29

There was an article on Oilersnation about this not too long ago. I think too much was made of Benn's lowly 87 point Art Ross last year. Look at the last 10 years. 2005–06 Joe Thornton Boston Bruins/San Jose Sharks 125 2006–07 Sidney Crosby Pittsburgh Penguins 120 2007–08 Alexander Ovechkin Washington Capitals 112 2008–09 Evgeni Malkin Pittsburgh Penguins 113 2009–10 Henrik Sedin Vancouver Canucks 112 2010–11 Daniel Sedin Vancouver Canucks 104 2011–12 Evgeni Malkin Pittsburgh Penguins 109 2012–14 Martin St. Louis Tampa Bay Lightning 60 (pro-rated 103) 2013–14 Sidney Crosby Pittsburgh Penguins 104 2014–15 Jamie Benn Dallas Stars 87 I would say the 87 points was an anomaly and that the 5-year running average is more around 105. So I think 75-85 points is very doable for McDavid. The biggest issue will be how much he gets the puck and how much time he spends running around like a chicken with with his head cut off in the defensive zone. Horrible D will still plague this team and will be a problem in getting the O going. On the flip side, I expect the power play to be much improved and everyone's numbers should improve if the power play can get back to a pre-Eakins level.

Sid was all alone last year with that 104, next highest was 87. If Sid didn't finally have a healthy season, 13/14 would have looked just like 14/15. There does seem to be a downward trend:

05/06 - 14 players with 90+ points
06/07 - 14 players with 90+ points
07/08 - 8 players with 90+ points
08/09 - 7 players with 90+ points
09/10 - 7 players with 90+ points
10/11 - 5 players with 90+ points
11/12 - 3 players with 90+ points
12/13 - 6 players with 90+ point pace
13/14 - 1 player with 90+ points
14/15 - 0 players with 90+ points

12/13 was kind of the anomaly. Probably not a coincidence that 5/6 of the guys on 90 point paces in 12/13 were in the East, getting to avoid playing real hockey teams in the west for that 48 game season

McDavid getting even close to 90 points would be amazing, arguably better than what Sid did in 05/06. Unless there are big changes to how games are called that is. The refs seem to go into "playoff" reffing mode earlier and earlier each year since the 04/05 lockout.

[Updated on: Tue, 18 August 2015 12:05]

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000