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I know he's a pending UFA making 2.6 right now and is due for a good raise but isn't this the kind of guy we really need. He's tough and can score. Might add to the right mix. Maybe we can pry him away and try to sign him ahead of July 1. I think it's worth a shot.

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 Re: David Clarkson [message #593218 is a reply to message #593216 ]
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I like Clarkson a lot and think he would look great on the Oilers. That said, the Devils are in a three way tie for 7th and only 3 points up on the Isles. I don't see Lamoriello letting him go without the Devils getting somebody back that helps them now.

Would I have his agent on speed dial this summer though? Absolutely.



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 Re: David Clarkson [message #593219 is a reply to message #593218 ]
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rukm01 wrote on Thu, 21 March 2013 15:44

I like Clarkson a lot and think he would look great on the Oilers. That said, the Devils are in a three way tie for 7th and only 3 points up on the Isles. I don't see Lamoriello letting him go without the Devils getting somebody back that helps them now.

Would I have his agent on speed dial this summer though? Absolutely.


I tend to agree. Teams that think they have a shot at the playoffs don't give up on UFAs at the deadline very often. Sucks to lose guys like that for nothing, but if you deal them for draft picks and don't make the playoffs, that can be even more harmful. Lamoriello has shown again and again that he's not really afraid of losing players to free agency. He has let Parise and Niedermayer walk, so I can't imagine he'll be that concerned if Clarkson goes for free.



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 Re: David Clarkson [message #593222 is a reply to message #593219 ]
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Adam wrote on Thu, 21 March 2013 15:49

rukm01 wrote on Thu, 21 March 2013 15:44

I like Clarkson a lot and think he would look great on the Oilers. That said, the Devils are in a three way tie for 7th and only 3 points up on the Isles. I don't see Lamoriello letting him go without the Devils getting somebody back that helps them now.

Would I have his agent on speed dial this summer though? Absolutely.


I tend to agree. Teams that think they have a shot at the playoffs don't give up on UFAs at the deadline very often. Sucks to lose guys like that for nothing, but if you deal them for draft picks and don't make the playoffs, that can be even more harmful. Lamoriello has shown again and again that he's not really afraid of losing players to free agency. He has let Parise and Niedermayer walk, so I can't imagine he'll be that concerned if Clarkson goes for free.


John Shannon from Sportsnet was just talking about him with Gregor. Said LL might let him go to get some assets and then try to resign him July 1.



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Prince Albert 1 wrote on Thu, 21 March 2013 16:21

Adam wrote on Thu, 21 March 2013 15:49

rukm01 wrote on Thu, 21 March 2013 15:44

I like Clarkson a lot and think he would look great on the Oilers. That said, the Devils are in a three way tie for 7th and only 3 points up on the Isles. I don't see Lamoriello letting him go without the Devils getting somebody back that helps them now.

Would I have his agent on speed dial this summer though? Absolutely.


I tend to agree. Teams that think they have a shot at the playoffs don't give up on UFAs at the deadline very often. Sucks to lose guys like that for nothing, but if you deal them for draft picks and don't make the playoffs, that can be even more harmful. Lamoriello has shown again and again that he's not really afraid of losing players to free agency. He has let Parise and Niedermayer walk, so I can't imagine he'll be that concerned if Clarkson goes for free.


John Shannon from Sportsnet was just talking about him with Gregor. Said LL might let him go to get some assets and then try to resign him July 1.


Sports columnists love to gossip about anyone who's contract is coming up. I don't think you can put a lot of stock in to it.

Why would he do that? Is he going to get anyone back in a trade that will give him as much or more than David Clarkson gives him right now? The only teams that would trade for him are other teams with playoff hopes, so they're not going to give up things that are likely to help the Devils, so dealing him makes your team worse. That will affect the psyche of your team, who sees their management dealing a key player for draft picks or prospects at a critical time in their playoff hunt. Terrible message to send, and almost guaranteed to cause the team to falter. Remember how well the Oilers played after they dealt Ryan Smyth?

Just like the Oilers shouldn't look at trading Ryan Jones, Ryan Whitney, Ladislav Smid or Nikolai Khabibulin if they're still in the hunt at the deadline, New Jersey shouldn't and I predict won't trade David Clarkson.



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These are the kinds of guys we should target in free agency, but not overpay for a rental this year.
Overpay a UFA? Sure.



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KellyDavid Clarkson is EXACTLY the player that the Oilers should go after. Not just "the type of player", I mean literally him - a power forward who scores goals, is in the same age range of our kids, and doesn't have a mile-long list of past injuries like Kessler has. I really hope we can get him this summer.

I'm starting to think Adam is right - if Smid is playing hardball, it doesn't help to trade him for a bunch of picks at the deadline. Just keep negotiating this summer. It would kill our team to trade him now.



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 Re: David Clarkson [message #593244 is a reply to message #593227 ]
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I think a lot of teams covet Clarkson, and as such I think someone stupid GM somewhere is going to make him a very rich man. He won't be cheap.


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Mike wrote on Thu, 21 March 2013 21:07

I think a lot of teams covet Clarkson, and as such I think someone stupid GM somewhere is going to make him a very rich man. He won't be cheap.



I can't remember where I saw the rumor but I heard that Clarkson knows that he's the most coveted UFA center to be and is looking for $4.5- $5 million on his next contract. That's part of the reason that Lou Lamoriello hasn't re-signed him yet.

He has a lot of the qualities that the Oilers could really use. Big body, good two way center. But as Mike said, some GM will make him a rich man. Maybe too rich for the Oilers.


One other thought would be that he'd be our second line center, and then what would we do with Gagner?



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v4ance wrote on Fri, 22 March 2013 03:58

Mike wrote on Thu, 21 March 2013 21:07

I think a lot of teams covet Clarkson, and as such I think someone stupid GM somewhere is going to make him a very rich man. He won't be cheap.



I can't remember where I saw the rumor but I heard that Clarkson knows that he's the most coveted UFA center to be and is looking for $4.5- $5 million on his next contract. That's part of the reason that Lou Lamoriello hasn't re-signed him yet.

He has a lot of the qualities that the Oilers could really use. Big body, good two way center. But as Mike said, some GM will make him a rich man. Maybe too rich for the Oilers.


One other thought would be that he'd be our second line center, and then what would we do with Gagner?


David Clarkson is not a C, he's a RW. He's going to be 29 next week.

I bet he gets upwards of $6M, certainly no less than $5M, and as much as I like what he brings, I just think whatever deal he signs (which I'm betting will have term too) will turn into an albatross by the end of it.



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 Re: David Clarkson [message #593275 is a reply to message #593252 ]
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What about former Governor General Adrian Clarkson? Undrafted, probably come in at league minimum!

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Magnum wrote on Fri, 22 March 2013 17:10

What about former Governor General Adrian Clarkson? Undrafted, probably come in at league minimum!

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 Re: David Clarkson [message #602087 is a reply to message #593216 ]
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It's official Clarkson is now a UFA.
New Jersey submitted him an offer before the deadline and it wasn't close.
We have a chance to make up huge and forget that we ever missed on Clutterbuck.
2 years 5.5-6M per? He's definitely going to be one of the most sought after free agents gonna have to overpay.

We NEED this.
Come on Grey Fox. ALL in.

Hall Nuge Yakupov
Eberle Gagner Clarkson / Horton
Paajarvi - Boyd Gordon - Colby Armstrong?
Jones - Dave Steckel - Brown
(Smyth)
Eat Half Horcoffs Salary and move him doubt we get anything rather than some help for the farm which is fine.
Would love to Move Hemsky for Smith on Ottawa. If that deal can be gone, Zack Smith slots in 3rd center position and Gordon in fourth.

Coburn Petry
Smid J Schultz
Ferrance Belov
(Corey Potter )
Move Nick Schultz ++ for Coburn from Philly. See if they're interested in Fistric, Peckham, or one of our pospects not named Nurse or Klefbom.

Dubnyk
Hedburg/Khodubin

1st line 13.55M
2nd line 17M (assuming Gagner gets 5 and Clarkson gets 5. Can see someone paying 6)
3rd line 4.5M
4th line 3.4M
39.7M includes Smyth

Defense
1st 6.25M
2nd 7.275M
3rd 4.025M
18.325M includes Potter

Goal
4.9M Dubey and Hedburg

Team Total
62.925 or 500k less if we take Khudobin instead.

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NCREDiBLE wrote on Mon, 01 July 2013 22:25

It's official Clarkson is now a UFA.
New Jersey submitted him an offer before the deadline and it wasn't close.
We have a chance to make up huge and forget that we ever missed on Clutterbuck.
2 years 5.5-6M per? He's definitely going to be one of the most sought after free agents gonna have to overpay.

We NEED this.
Come on Grey Fox. ALL in.

Hall Nuge Yakupov
Eberle Gagner Clarkson
Paajarvi 3rd Center Horton/3rd RW
Jones 4th Center Brown
(Smyth)

Coburn? Petry
Smid J Schultz
N Schultz Belov
(Andrew Ferrance, Corey Potter )

Dubnyk
Hedburg/Hillier/Emery/Thomas/khodubin/Dipetrio?


Oh, and Horton?? Another 5-6M on a 3RW who isn't a 3RW?
And Coburn, for no assets?
Oh, and Ference?

Come on, man. With your expensive backup goalie, I don't think this lineup is even under the cap - especially since you don't have a 3C or 4C!



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 Re: David Clarkson [message #602090 is a reply to message #602089 ]
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Skoobz wrote on Mon, 01 July 2013 22:47

NCREDiBLE wrote on Mon, 01 July 2013 22:25

It's official Clarkson is now a UFA.
New Jersey submitted him an offer before the deadline and it wasn't close.
We have a chance to make up huge and forget that we ever missed on Clutterbuck.
2 years 5.5-6M per? He's definitely going to be one of the most sought after free agents gonna have to overpay.

We NEED this.
Come on Grey Fox. ALL in.

Hall Nuge Yakupov
Eberle Gagner Clarkson
Paajarvi 3rd Center Horton/3rd RW
Jones 4th Center Brown
(Smyth)

Coburn? Petry
Smid J Schultz
N Schultz Belov
(Andrew Ferrance, Corey Potter )

Dubnyk
Hedburg/Hillier/Emery/Thomas/khodubin/Dipetrio?


Oh, and Horton?? Another 5-6M on a 3RW who isn't a 3RW?
And Coburn, for no assets?
Oh, and Ference?

Come on, man. With your expensive backup goalie, I don't think this lineup is even under the cap - especially since you don't have a 3C or 4C!


My bad I put Horton in there without saying if we miss out on Clarkson. Plan B.
Honestly I'd sign Andrew Ferrance and move Nick Schultz + prospects to land Coburn.

I'll repost a updated roster all spots filled.



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NCREDiBLE wrote on Tue, 02 July 2013 02:22

and move Nick Schultz + prospects to land Coburn.


Philly is looking to move Coburn for cap relief. They're not going to take Nick Schultz back in return as that only rearranges the Titanic's deck chairs.



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Hibernia wrote on Tue, 02 July 2013 06:11

NCREDiBLE wrote on Tue, 02 July 2013 02:22

and move Nick Schultz + prospects to land Coburn.


Philly is looking to move Coburn for cap relief. They're not going to take Nick Schultz back in return as that only rearranges the Titanic's deck chairs.



It's still beneficial for Philadelphia. It's a million off the cap, it's three years off the term, and Schultz's deal expires before Giroux's extension would begin.

But it might not be enough still. Philly might be looking to lose more.

The Flyers are in a bad place, but they have a little time to figure this out. Right now Pronger's contract counts against the cap, but as soon as the season starts, he'll go on the LTIR and his contract won't count against the cap. Since you can be above the cap prior to the season starting, you can essentially know about $5M off whatever their current number is. Which means they're alright... until they decide that Steve Mason isn't good enough in net and they need to sign a goalie.



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Hibernia wrote on Tue, 02 July 2013 06:11

NCREDiBLE wrote on Tue, 02 July 2013 02:22

and move Nick Schultz + prospects to land Coburn.


Philly is looking to move Coburn for cap relief. They're not going to take Nick Schultz back in return as that only rearranges the Titanic's deck chairs.



Looking back on what I wrote yesterday I blame it on my 14 hour shift at Suncor.
Too much sun.

I honestly already have Clarkson signed 2+ years in Toronto at near 6M.
And I'm totally fine with that.

Horton should sign with a team like Tampa or some other city that doesn't care a out hockey like we do.

I've come down to this.. Take it easy on me.

Hall - Nuge - Eberle
Viktor Stalberg - Gagner - Yakupov
Clarke MacArthur - Boyd Gordon - Paajarvi
Smyth - Lander - Brown
( Eager )

Paul Ranger / Braydon Coburn - J. Schultz
Smid - Petry
Andrew Ferrance - Belov
( Potter )

Dubnyk
Anton Khudobin

Decent? Realistic? Just please no return of Tom Gilbert
Honestly that roster doesn't excite me but I don't really have my hopes up.
Even though I'll be watching like a hawk at what becomes.
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NCREDiBLE wrote on Wed, 03 July 2013 22:35

Hibernia wrote on Tue, 02 July 2013 06:11

NCREDiBLE wrote on Tue, 02 July 2013 02:22

and move Nick Schultz + prospects to land Coburn.


Philly is looking to move Coburn for cap relief. They're not going to take Nick Schultz back in return as that only rearranges the Titanic's deck chairs.



Looking back on what I wrote yesterday I blame it on my 14 hour shift at Suncor.
Too much sun.

I honestly already have Clarkson signed 2+ years in Toronto at near 6M.
And I'm totally fine with that.

Horton should sign with a team like Tampa or some other city that doesn't care a out hockey like we do.

I've come down to this.. Take it easy on me.

Hall - Nuge - Eberle
Viktor Stalberg - Gagner - Yakupov
Clarke MacArthur - Boyd Gordon - Paajarvi
Smyth - Lander - Brown
( Eager )

Paul Ranger / Braydon Coburn - J. Schultz
Smid - Petry
Andrew Ferrance - Belov
( Potter )

Dubnyk
Anton Khudobin

Decent? Realistic? Just please no return of Tom Gilbert
Honestly that roster doesn't excite me but I don't really have my hopes up.
Even though I'll be watching like a hawk at what becomes.
Love this time of the year!


You're getting closer. icon_wink

Big "yes" to Clarke MacArthur. Big "yes" to Boyd Gordon. And "yes" to Khudobin and Ranger (although I'd sign him as a third pairing guy / 7th guy in place of Potter.

I wouldn't bother with Ference and instead just concentrate on finding a top-pairing defenseman. I'd also probably gamble on Pouliot over Stalberg.

I'd kick tires on a few other guys - Mason Raymond, Jarome Iginla, Tom Gilbert, Matt Cooke, Matt Hendricks, Matt Cullen, Ryane Clowe, and Ryan Jones - but we're kind of on the same page with a lot of the guys we'd target now.



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I don't think thats such a great idea. At first it sounds great getting someone big and skilled like Horton or Clarkson but in reality it will cost a lot. At one point I was hoping we would go for Clarkson but now when I think about it it doesn't seem smart. Has Eberle ever played LW? Can Clarkson play LW? I think the main issue is filling in these spots with players who aren't going to be paid 5 plus million and give us cap issues in the future.

Hall - RNH - Eberle
Paajarvi/X - Gagner - Yakupov
Paajarvi/X- X - X
Smyth - X - Jones/Brown

X - Schultz
Smid-Petry
Belov - X
Potter

I think for 2nd and 3rd line LW we can have Paajarvi and someone else who are interchangeable maybe a Macarthur, Filpula, Morrow if its possible to sign them from 4 or less? I think Paajarvi made some huge steps this year and he may be able to fill the 2L spot.

For the 4 "easy" spots left over (3C, 3RW, 4C, 6D) I think we can aquire those players through trading Hemsky and Nick Schultz and going through free agency.

As far as the number one LH Dman goes i think we should try and find a 2 year stop gap that wont cost us much or try and get Coburn just depends on the price. I think if Coburn costs us next years first it could be worth it but our D eventually could be:

Nurse - Schultz
Klefbom - Petry
Smid - Fedun
With Marincin in the mix as well.

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I like the player and his fit for the team. I just hope we don't overpay in dollars too badly.

29 years old now. 5 years at $5.25? Basically, it'd be a trade for Horcoff's cap hit (assuming we deal Horc or Hemmer)


If we didn't win the bidding, that'd be okay as well. Could just as well save the cap room for signing our own prospects in 2-3 years when they need it.

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v4ance wrote on Wed, 03 July 2013 22:04

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I like the player and his fit for the team. I just hope we don't overpay in dollars too badly.

29 years old now. 5 years at $5.25? Basically, it'd be a trade for Horcoff's cap hit (assuming we deal Horc or Hemmer)


If we didn't win the bidding, that'd be okay as well. Could just as well save the cap room for signing our own prospects in 2-3 years when they need it.


I know a lot of people want Clarkson, but I'm just not one of them. I don't think he's a great fit for this club (being a RWer), and he just seems like a guy that is about to cash in big and not be able to live up to those expectations. He's not old, but if he signs a 5-year deal, he'll be in his 30s for most of it. A lot of these power forwards decline pretty quickly once they hit that age.

I guess in short I'm just worried we'd be paying premium dollars for someone who's peak has come and he's on a gradual decline. Not saying that will happen for sure, but I think it's a risk. And personally there are others that I believe are better dollar value that I'd probably be looking at.



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mightyreasoner wrote on Wed, 03 July 2013 21:20


I know a lot of people want Clarkson, but I'm just not one of them. I don't think he's a great fit for this club (being a RWer), and he just seems like a guy that is about to cash in big and not be able to live up to those expectations.


Fully agree with this. Some team is going to pay upwards of $5.5MM for 25-ish goals. That sounds crazy to me.



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v4ance wrote on Wed, 03 July 2013 22:04


I like the player and his fit for the team. I just hope we don't overpay in dollars too badly.


Agreed. I'd hate for us to do what Chicago did a few years back taking on Campbell and Hossa and then losing a core of players they couldn't keep. Then again they won the Cup!

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If we didn't win the bidding, that'd be okay as well. Could just as well save the cap room for signing our own prospects in 2-3 years when they need it.


Also agreed. I guess as long as we don't take on to lengthy of UFA contracts, handcuffing us when we need to sign our skill guys, it wouldn't be terrible to spend close to the cap.

Do we actually think UFAs want to come to Edmonton yet? It's more desirable than it once was but I question whether this is an appealing destination for a UFA who could go to a contender, Eastern, or tropical non-crazy hockey market.

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I like the player and his fit for the team. I just hope we don't overpay in dollars too badly.

29 years old now. 5 years at $5.25? Basically, it'd be a trade for Horcoff's cap hit (assuming we deal Horc or Hemmer)


If we didn't win the bidding, that'd be okay as well. Could just as well save the cap room for signing our own prospects in 2-3 years when they need it.

I see TO winning this based on the fact that they are far more playoff ready than we are. With the additions they have made this off-season so far, they are going to be pretty good.

We wont stand a chance, unless we offer crazy money, and thats all Clarkson cares about.



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Im afraid with MacT not accomplishing what he wanted to do during the Draft he will throw huge dollars / term at Clarkson just to make a splash.

There has to be better options out there...but MacT probably has the blinders on...



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IMO Clarkson is exactly what we need. Sandpaper that play in the top 6. Making room would be tough but you gotta do it.



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Boniman wrote on Thu, 04 July 2013 15:24

IMO Clarkson is exactly what we need. Sandpaper that play in the top 6. Making room would be tough but you gotta do it.

With Yak and Eberle both slated as the top 2 RW's for many seasons to come where would he fit in? Any chance 1/3 could move to LW? I don't know much about Clarkson...has he played any LW?



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Boniman wrote on Thu, 04 July 2013 15:24

IMO Clarkson is exactly what we need. Sandpaper that play in the top 6. Making room would be tough but you gotta do it.

With Yak and Eberle both slated as the top 2 RW's for many seasons to come where would he fit in? Any chance 1/3 could move to LW? I don't know much about Clarkson...has he played any LW?


For 5-6M, he'll play where we tell him to play and he damn well better produce! icon_wink

I was curious about him too and was watching his highlights. The guy can grind things out pretty much anywhere from the looks of it and has had lots of goals off battling in the middle of the ice. Lots and lots of highlights of him hammering pucks in with his right handed shot on the left side of the ice, especially on the PP.



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Yakupov on the LW. Clarkson on the RW. Drool.


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Skoobz wrote on Thu, 04 July 2013 22:28

Yakupov on the LW. Clarkson on the RW. Drool.


Even if it's Clarkson at $5.5MM for seven years? Remember, his career high points total is 46.

Honestly, wouldn't we be just as far ahead bringing Penner back? He's also big but scores more points. He won't come back, but I am not convinced Clarkson is as good a player.

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Adam wrote on Thu, 04 July 2013 21:45

Skoobz wrote on Thu, 04 July 2013 22:28

Yakupov on the LW. Clarkson on the RW. Drool.


Even if it's Clarkson at $5.5MM for seven years?


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5.5/7 is a little long in term - but I'd be ok with 5.5/4. From the highlights I've watched, he seems like the east's answer to David Backes (.61 ppg).


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Adam wrote on Thu, 04 July 2013 22:45

Skoobz wrote on Thu, 04 July 2013 22:28

Yakupov on the LW. Clarkson on the RW. Drool.


Even if it's Clarkson at $5.5MM for seven years? Remember, his career high points total is 46.

Honestly, wouldn't we be just as far ahead bringing Penner back? He's also big but scores more points. He won't come back, but I am not convinced Clarkson is as good a player.


The term is the worst part about potentially signing Clarkson.

He's 29 right now. Alright, that's okay. But let's say he signs for 7 years... that take him until he's 36. How many power forwards are playing at a $6M level at 36? The closest is probably Jarome Iginla, and I don't think anyone hear would be happy with the idea of signing Iginla for $6M right now.

Could Clarkson be an exception? Sure, I guess he could. But history shows that these type of gritty, power forwards usually have a pretty steep decline once they hit 30. Perfect examples? Ryan Malone and Todd Bertuzzi. My fear - and I think it's a reasonable one - is that we would be paying $6M a season for what Clarkson has done in the past rather than what he will do in the future. He has likely already peaked. He likely has a couple really good seasons still in him. And after that his contract will become an anchor that makes it hard to go out and get the pieces we need - or to sign our own guys.

It's sounding like the Oilers have a real shot at landing him. Personally, I'm hoping he chooses elsewhere. I think it will save us from disappointment and trouble down the road.



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Count me in on not wanting Clarkson. Damn near everything is pointing to him being a disappointment after he gets his huge contract. Any team paying him big is taking a huge gamble. I think it goes beyond boldness and into desperation to take him on for anything over ~4.5M/year for more than 4 years.


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oobga wrote on Thu, 04 July 2013 23:12

Count me in on not wanting Clarkson. Damn near everything is pointing to him being a disappointment after he gets his huge contract. Any team paying him big is taking a huge gamble. I think it goes beyond boldness and into desperation to take him on for anything over ~4.5M/year for more than 4 years.


4.5M would be great to me.

I'm not anti-Clarkson. I'm anti-6.0-Clarkson. Much like we've had the anti-5.5-Horcoff crowd since he signed that contract.

But if a 30-35 point guy who fights 6 times a season is gonna get 6.0M just because he's the "highest" profile UFA...




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Skoobz wrote on Thu, 04 July 2013 22:28

Yakupov on the LW. Clarkson on the RW. Drool.


Yeah, but we don't want Yakupov on the LW. Remember? We were up in arms over Krueger playing him there because it takes away that lethal one-timer he has.

I'd rather move Yakupov to Hall's line and move Eberle to the LW. Or perhaps Clarkson could play LW. In any case, this isn't ideal because someone will be playing the off-wing, so to speak.



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Sources confirming David Clarkson met with the Edmonton Oilers today in Edmonton. #TSN


He met with Ottawa yesterday and probably had a stop over to chat with Leafs in evening as well.



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v4ance wrote on Thu, 04 July 2013 21:43

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Sources confirming David Clarkson met with the Edmonton Oilers today in Edmonton. #TSN


He met with Ottawa yesterday and probably had a stop over to chat with Leafs in evening as well.

The crew on SportsNet just speculated that he'd be in TO by morning. But they seem to think everyones gonna to the Centre of the Universe.



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