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Edmonton @ Carolina (Game #49)



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Disgusting, absolutely disgusting.


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The funny part is that the oilfans bot also new the games was over with 7 min to go so it just posted this thread early.


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Skylerh22 wrote on Fri, 18 January 2008 19:20

The funny part is that the oilfans bot also new the games was over with 7 min to go so it just posted this thread early.

Awesome clapping clapping clapping



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Mclovin wrote on Fri, 18 January 2008 19:16

Disgusting, absolutely disgusting.


Hey Mclovin, why you only got one name?



Burke > Tambellini

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Good quality Mac-T game tonight


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rukm01 wrote on Sun, 01 July 2012 21:54

Souray is a Duck is one letter away from being totally accurate.

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steve staios - best dman for outlet passes. It Looked like he thought carolina had 10 skaters coming at him everytime he tried to make a pass. What the hell is with all the slashing lately those are horribly stupid penalties to take.


When you get all set to watch the game, and within 10 minutes the Oilers are losing:

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Time to blow it up. 100% rebuild mode, NOW.


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Wyntermute wrote on Fri, 18 January 2008 19:31

Time to blow it up. 100% rebuild mode, NOW.



I love how during the 4 game win streak last week people were thinking playoffs and what not, now in a 2 game slide highlighted by a 7-2 drubbing we hear screams for a blow up



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There was a certain team with a joke of a road record last year too...

I hate losing to bad teams. The Oil have some talent this year, but tonight they all took bad penalties and left Garon out to dry.



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rukm01 wrote on Sun, 01 July 2012 21:54

Souray is a Duck is one letter away from being totally accurate.

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Surprised by the outrage now and the heady happiness a week ago. This is the Oilers, this is the way they always are, always have been for 7 years other than a playoff run that looks more and more like a fluke. As I said before, they'll string together a few small win streaks here and there just enough to keep the press lackeys from calling for heads and just enough to give their fans some faint hope then they'll go back to tanking againts 'teams they should beat'.

This is a team with a bad head coach.

This is a team with no real strong plan. Are we looking to make the playoffs and contend? Are we looking to rebuild? The Oilers try and do both and end up with neither.



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Skylerh22 wrote on Fri, 18 January 2008 18:33

Wyntermute wrote on Fri, 18 January 2008 19:31

Time to blow it up. 100% rebuild mode, NOW.


I love how during the 4 game win streak last week people were thinking playoffs and what not, now in a 2 game slide highlighted by a 7-2 drubbing we hear screams for a blow up


Wasn't me Skyler, it's clear that this group isn't playoff quality. Hell, Phoenix was was on a 4 game win streak too, it doesn't mean either team is any good.



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Skylerh22 wrote on Fri, 18 January 2008 19:33

Wyntermute wrote on Fri, 18 January 2008 19:31

Time to blow it up. 100% rebuild mode, NOW.



I love how during the 4 game win streak last week people were thinking playoffs and what not, now in a 2 game slide highlighted by a 7-2 drubbing we hear screams for a blow up


The 4 game streak got them to within 5 points of 8th. They were at a fork in the road...one way leading to consistency and continued good play, the other to mediocrity and more failure.

They're 3 games down the wrong road. Any opportunity this team had is sliding by, so the reaction is not surprising.



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Wyntermute wrote on Fri, 18 January 2008 19:31

Time to blow it up. 100% rebuild mode, NOW.



No, we can not give anaheim a top pick this year. I dont want to see Bruke icon_lol as he walks up and calls Stamkos name.

We can Blow it up next year and get Tavares

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Wyntermute wrote on Fri, 18 January 2008 19:31

Time to blow it up. 100% rebuild mode, NOW.

can't do it because Lowe....in his genious...decided to piss away his 1st rounder (and I love Penner)



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The last couple of games and all of the other games that Pitkanen missed show you how important he really is. You take him off our blue line and we go from an average defence to a terrible one.

The effort level tonight was simply terrible from what I saw. The only one who was pissed about it was Moreau.

As a side note to the idiot who said blow it up and rebuild. What do you think we have now. This team was blown up with the pronger/smith/smyth deals. We can't trade any more of the older players or Ana will be picking stamkos.

The biggest problem we have right now is a lack of team toughness.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Carolina (Game #49) [message #402444 is a reply to message #402413 ]
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Hopefully this game will wake up the Oilers. They cant sleep againist bottom half teams. Garon was not the one that lost us the game it was the defence. Soon Greene should be back and we cen get #37 of the ice


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mad90 wrote on Fri, 18 January 2008 19:32

Hopefully this game will wake up the Oilers. They cant sleep against bottom half teams. Garon was not the one that lost us the game it was the defense. Soon Greene should be back and we cen get #37 of the ice

Unfortunately 37 seems to have inherited the pictures of Mac-T and the goat that Toby had ;last year and therefore is immune to any criticism from the Mac-Wiseone



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If the team keeps sliding, then atleast keep giving the kids more ice time to build up their experience. The one bright spot to the game was that they had jump and were responsible for both of the Oilers goals. Was cool to see the kids playing together on the same lines for a change.


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Whoo!! A loss and two goals scored. That=4 points for me. weights
That's all that matters anymore.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Carolina (Game #49) [message #402469 is a reply to message #402462 ]
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So Garon let in 6 goals and Roloson only 1?
I didn't watch the game.

I was going to say why didn't they pull him EARLIER but if they would have it would have prolly been 17-2.

[Updated on: Fri, 18 January 2008 21:40]


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NCREDiBLE wrote on Fri, 18 January 2008 20:28

So Garon let in 6 goals and Roloson only 1?
I didn't watch the game.

I was going to say why didn't they pull him EARLIER but if they would have it would have prolly been 17-2.


I didn't see the Brind'amour goal, but otherwise there was only 1 goal the goalie definitely should have had, which was the wraparound goal, otherwise I blame the other 5 guys in white.

Oh right, and on the wraparound goal, there was a Cane laying on top of Staios while Souray was jarring with another Cane in front of the net, with his back turned to the puck carrier... basically Souray left Garon all by himself to deal with Staal.

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Boy am I glad I went out with some friends after the Stall penalty shot and didnt subject myself to the rest of this embarrassment.





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I passed out to the sounds of Mean Gene getting ready for the play by play of the penalty shot.... then woke up to check the final score. Good one to sleep through!


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Hemskoreson wrote on Fri, 18 January 2008 14:19

Brind'Amour is going to make us his biatch tonight. I smell a blow out.

6-1 Canes. Horc with the G and Hemmer with the A.


Didn't watch it after 3-1 but i guess I wasn't far off. I should have written "(insert Canes' player here) is going to make us (his/their) biatch tonight. I guess hindsight is 20/20. Bring on Kovy. Maybe he'll feel sorry for us and want a trade here next summer. icon_frown

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The only Steady thing about him is his deterioration in play.

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Carolina (Game #49) [message #402489 is a reply to message #402484 ]
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Simply a reflection of what this team has been, is, and what it will be under Mac T. We have seen stretches like this the past 7 seasons, win 4, lose 6, beat a top team so everyone is happy, lose 4, beat Calgary so everyone is happy, win 4, lose 6 etc etc

We have celebrated mediocrity for far too long, and only catching lightning in a bottle made us forget the past years.

This team will not change for any better any Mac T.

Can you imagine Columbus under Hitchcock with an ounce of talent the Oilers have be blown out and embarrassed like this?

I am not one to hop on and off the Mac T bandwagon....I have been off it for many years now and will continue to. A game like this, regardless of a back to back is a perfect illustration as to why this team needs a change.

No passion, no real system, inept power plays, awful line juggling, and over playing of 'Mac T's favorites' ie. Staois!

As I brought up a while back, what will it take for the Oilers to make a change? Are people happy with remaining to be an 8th place or less team for the next 7 years? Cos that is what we have been the last 7 years, and nothing is going to change. So I ask again, what will it take for the Oilers to make a change for the better for this team?



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Carolina (Game #49) [message #402498 is a reply to message #402489 ]
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So I ask again, what will it take for the Oilers to make a change for the better for this team?

Falling attendance.



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Beerfish Revisited wrote on Sat, 19 January 2008 09:17

So I ask again, what will it take for the Oilers to make a change for the better for this team?

Falling attendance.

So what is the answer to it this time?
1) Fire Mact?
2) Fire Lowe?
3) Complete Rebuild?
4) Fire Mact and Lowe?
5) Fire Mact and a complete rebuild?
6) Fire Mact and Lowe and a complete rebuild?
7) Fire Lowe and a complete rebuild?

8) continue with the progress we have made in this season and carrying it in to next season?

It's funny how some "fans" only come out and say sh it when the oilers are doing bad. But quite quickly they run off when they are doing good. Oilers go 4-1, silence from the usual gang of boo birds. Oilers get there asses handed to them in one game, here comes Beerfish



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feepa wrote on Sat, 19 January 2008 15:10

Beerfish Revisited wrote on Sat, 19 January 2008 09:17

So I ask again, what will it take for the Oilers to make a change for the better for this team?

Falling attendance.

So what is the answer to it this time?
1) Fire Mact?
2) Fire Lowe?
3) Complete Rebuild?
4) Fire Mact and Lowe?
5) Fire Mact and a complete rebuild?
6) Fire Mact and Lowe and a complete rebuild?
7) Fire Lowe and a complete rebuild?

8) continue with the progress we have made in this season and carrying it in to next season?

It's funny how some "fans" only come out and say sh it when the oilers are doing bad. But quite quickly they run off when they are doing good. Oilers go 4-1, silence from the usual gang of boo birds. Oilers get there asses handed to them in one game, here comes Beerfish


LOL....read the posts Feepa, I give the Oilers credit and am more than happy to pat them on the back when they play well from game to game. I do not go into a tizzy when they win 3 games in a row though because the inevitable happens.

As for the solution? Very simple 1) on your list. That's what has to be done (along with his assistants.) We'll never know just what this team is until we have a new coaching regime in here. As for your other choices. Ask Lowe, he doesn't seem to know whether to rebuild or not. The words rebuild come out when a team sucks, even if the team had no intention of 'rebuilding' before the season started.



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Regulator wrote on Sat, 19 January 2008 01:10

Simply a reflection of what this team has been, is, and what it will be under Mac T. We have seen stretches like this the past 7 seasons, win 4, lose 6, beat a top team so everyone is happy, lose 4, beat Calgary so everyone is happy, win 4, lose 6 etc etc

We have celebrated mediocrity for far too long, and only catching lightning in a bottle made us forget the past years.

This team will not change for any better any Mac T.

Can you imagine Columbus under Hitchcock with an ounce of talent the Oilers have be blown out and embarrassed like this?

I am not one to hop on and off the Mac T bandwagon....I have been off it for many years now and will continue to. A game like this, regardless of a back to back is a perfect illustration as to why this team needs a change.

No passion, no real system, inept power plays, awful line juggling, and over playing of 'Mac T's favorites' ie. Staois!

As I brought up a while back, what will it take for the Oilers to make a change? Are people happy with remaining to be an 8th place or less team for the next 7 years? Cos that is what we have been the last 7 years, and nothing is going to change. So I ask again, what will it take for the Oilers to make a change for the better for this team?


I really don't have strong feelings either way as to whether MacT should stay or go in the off-season. It ain't happening during the season regardless of what anybody wants.

A good ass kicking once in a while can help to sober up a team, and especially in the dog days of winter this might really be the time for a whooping to happen. Out of conference, 3 games out of all-star break. Hey, there's no saying that we won't win the next 3 and then be primed for a post-break run.

I'm not certain we have the talent to really do anything even if we do make the playoffs, but then again I don't think we did in the 06 run either.

Either way, I'd rather it be a 7-2 loss than a 4-2 loss. At least this way the wakeup call is a little louder. Let's see how they respond.



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Like I said in the Pre-Game LA thread this is a very dangerous time for the Oilers. Playing the worst team in the league (LA) and then a road trip against the weakest division in the league (SE). Traditionally this team has bee completely unable to beat the worst teams (LA, Washington) and this road trip is confirming it. Carolina is a crappy team too now. About as lousy as us at least any playing no team stronger than Atlanta 8 times a year. And that entire southeast division is lead by Atlanta (which was off to a what 1-10-0 start?).

Its an utterly frustrating to see this team choke again and again vs the worst teams. The year of their run they lost to the worst team in the conference with 2 games left, St Louis and had to rely on Vancouver to self destruct as they had games in hand. And thank God they obliged us.

This team has the killer instinct of a fish out of water, flopping around like they have no business playing professional hockey. Mr Staios went backwards umpteen times and caused a half dozen turnovers in the first two periods. They were beaten to the puck constantly in their own ends. Looked very tired and I was thinking oh oh either they hang on or the third gets ugly.

What is more frustrating is to see a riddled Colorado team (with no Smyth, Stastny or Sakic) sweep through this same division last week and WIN every beat every freaken team. INJURIES are NO exccuse.



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halfafrog wrote on Sat, 19 January 2008 10:12

Like I said in the Pre-Game LA thread this is a very dangerous time for the Oilers. Playing the worst team in the league (LA) and then a road trip against the weakest division in the league (SE). Traditionally this team has bee completely unable to beat the worst teams (LA, Washington) and this road trip is confirming it. Carolina is a crappy team too now. About as lousy as us at least any playing no team stronger than Atlanta 8 times a year. And that entire southeast division is lead by Atlanta (which was off to a what 1-10-0 start?).

Its an utterly frustrating to see this team choke again and again vs the worst teams. The year of their run they lost to the worst team in the conference with 2 games left, St Louis and had to rely on Vancouver to self destruct as they had games in hand. And thank God they obliged us.

This team has the killer instinct of a fish out of water, flopping around like they have no business playing professional hockey. Mr Staios went backwards umpteen times and caused a half dozen turnovers in the first two periods. They were beaten to the puck constantly in their own ends. Looked very tired and I was thinking oh oh either they hang on or the third gets ugly.

What is more frustrating is to see a riddled Colorado team (with no Smyth, Stastny or Sakic) sweep through this same division last week and WIN every beat every freaken team. INJURIES are NO exccuse.


Yup I think you hit the nail of the head there. So frustrating to me to watch teams with less talent / injuries than the Oilers play so much better. Clear illustrations are Columbus, Phoenix and Colorado last week. It's mind boggling to me how those teams are so much tougher to play against, and so much more solid in every facet. Watching Phoenix and Columbus especially shows you what a well coached team with an effective system really is, regardless of the players you have. Sadly, we are team with all the skill in the world, some great young players, 2 forward superstars, 3 top 4 dmen in any team, and we still continue to struggle every week to show any sort of consistency. Only with a coaching change will we see this consistency.



dkb19 wrote on Mon, 20 July 2009 13:05 (re: Horcoff)

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Regulator wrote on Sat, 19 January 2008 12:42

halfafrog wrote on Sat, 19 January 2008 10:12

Like I said in the Pre-Game LA thread this is a very dangerous time for the Oilers. Playing the worst team in the league (LA) and then a road trip against the weakest division in the league (SE). Traditionally this team has bee completely unable to beat the worst teams (LA, Washington) and this road trip is confirming it. Carolina is a crappy team too now. About as lousy as us at least any playing no team stronger than Atlanta 8 times a year. And that entire southeast division is lead by Atlanta (which was off to a what 1-10-0 start?).

Its an utterly frustrating to see this team choke again and again vs the worst teams. The year of their run they lost to the worst team in the conference with 2 games left, St Louis and had to rely on Vancouver to self destruct as they had games in hand. And thank God they obliged us.

This team has the killer instinct of a fish out of water, flopping around like they have no business playing professional hockey. Mr Staios went backwards umpteen times and caused a half dozen turnovers in the first two periods. They were beaten to the puck constantly in their own ends. Looked very tired and I was thinking oh oh either they hang on or the third gets ugly.

What is more frustrating is to see a riddled Colorado team (with no Smyth, Stastny or Sakic) sweep through this same division last week and WIN every beat every freaken team. INJURIES are NO exccuse.


Yup I think you hit the nail of the head there. So frustrating to me to watch teams with less talent / injuries than the Oilers play so much better. Clear illustrations are Columbus, Phoenix and Colorado last week. It's mind boggling to me how those teams are so much tougher to play against, and so much more solid in every facet. Watching Phoenix and Columbus especially shows you what a well coached team with an effective system really is, regardless of the players you have. Sadly, we are team with all the skill in the world, some great young players, 2 forward superstars, 3 top 4 dmen in any team, and we still continue to struggle every week to show any sort of consistency. Only with a coaching change will we see this consistency.


Absolutely zero question that we're not 'there' yet as a team and perhaps as an organization.

Still a hell of a lot better than last season overall with some of the promising youngsters and some of the traded players working out (Pitkanen).

As far as a realistic playoff chance though...
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o211/JohnMatthews_photos/FatLadySings.jpg



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Carolina (Game #49) [message #402532 is a reply to message #402529 ]
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MyBestGuess wrote on Sat, 19 January 2008 15:08

Regulator wrote on Sat, 19 January 2008 12:42

halfafrog wrote on Sat, 19 January 2008 10:12

Like I said in the Pre-Game LA thread this is a very dangerous time for the Oilers. Playing the worst team in the league (LA) and then a road trip against the weakest division in the league (SE). Traditionally this team has bee completely unable to beat the worst teams (LA, Washington) and this road trip is confirming it. Carolina is a crappy team too now. About as lousy as us at least any playing no team stronger than Atlanta 8 times a year. And that entire southeast division is lead by Atlanta (which was off to a what 1-10-0 start?).

Its an utterly frustrating to see this team choke again and again vs the worst teams. The year of their run they lost to the worst team in the conference with 2 games left, St Louis and had to rely on Vancouver to self destruct as they had games in hand. And thank God they obliged us.

This team has the killer instinct of a fish out of water, flopping around like they have no business playing professional hockey. Mr Staios went backwards umpteen times and caused a half dozen turnovers in the first two periods. They were beaten to the puck constantly in their own ends. Looked very tired and I was thinking oh oh either they hang on or the third gets ugly.

What is more frustrating is to see a riddled Colorado team (with no Smyth, Stastny or Sakic) sweep through this same division last week and WIN every beat every freaken team. INJURIES are NO exccuse.


Yup I think you hit the nail of the head there. So frustrating to me to watch teams with less talent / injuries than the Oilers play so much better. Clear illustrations are Columbus, Phoenix and Colorado last week. It's mind boggling to me how those teams are so much tougher to play against, and so much more solid in every facet. Watching Phoenix and Columbus especially shows you what a well coached team with an effective system really is, regardless of the players you have. Sadly, we are team with all the skill in the world, some great young players, 2 forward superstars, 3 top 4 dmen in any team, and we still continue to struggle every week to show any sort of consistency. Only with a coaching change will we see this consistency.


Absolutely zero question that we're not 'there' yet as a team and perhaps as an organization.

Still a hell of a lot better than last season overall with some of the promising youngsters and some of the traded players working out (Pitkanen).

As far as a realistic playoff chance though...
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o211/JohnMatthews_photos/FatLadySings.jpg


This lady has been signing that playoff 'song' since about december at least.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Carolina (Game #49) [message #402535 is a reply to message #402532 ]
Sat, 19 January 2008 15:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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feepa wrote on Sat, 19 January 2008 15:11

MyBestGuess wrote on Sat, 19 January 2008 15:08

Regulator wrote on Sat, 19 January 2008 12:42

halfafrog wrote on Sat, 19 January 2008 10:12

Like I said in the Pre-Game LA thread this is a very dangerous time for the Oilers. Playing the worst team in the league (LA) and then a road trip against the weakest division in the league (SE). Traditionally this team has bee completely unable to beat the worst teams (LA, Washington) and this road trip is confirming it. Carolina is a crappy team too now. About as lousy as us at least any playing no team stronger than Atlanta 8 times a year. And that entire southeast division is lead by Atlanta (which was off to a what 1-10-0 start?).

Its an utterly frustrating to see this team choke again and again vs the worst teams. The year of their run they lost to the worst team in the conference with 2 games left, St Louis and had to rely on Vancouver to self destruct as they had games in hand. And thank God they obliged us.

This team has the killer instinct of a fish out of water, flopping around like they have no business playing professional hockey. Mr Staios went backwards umpteen times and caused a half dozen turnovers in the first two periods. They were beaten to the puck constantly in their own ends. Looked very tired and I was thinking oh oh either they hang on or the third gets ugly.

What is more frustrating is to see a riddled Colorado team (with no Smyth, Stastny or Sakic) sweep through this same division last week and WIN every beat every freaken team. INJURIES are NO exccuse.


Yup I think you hit the nail of the head there. So frustrating to me to watch teams with less talent / injuries than the Oilers play so much better. Clear illustrations are Columbus, Phoenix and Colorado last week. It's mind boggling to me how those teams are so much tougher to play against, and so much more solid in every facet. Watching Phoenix and Columbus especially shows you what a well coached team with an effective system really is, regardless of the players you have. Sadly, we are team with all the skill in the world, some great young players, 2 forward superstars, 3 top 4 dmen in any team, and we still continue to struggle every week to show any sort of consistency. Only with a coaching change will we see this consistency.


Absolutely zero question that we're not 'there' yet as a team and perhaps as an organization.

Still a hell of a lot better than last season overall with some of the promising youngsters and some of the traded players working out (Pitkanen).

As far as a realistic playoff chance though...
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o211/JohnMatthews_photos/FatLadySings.jpg


This lady has been singing that playoff 'song' since about last december at least, and will continue to hit those high notes until this organization pulls it's head out of Mac T's and Lowe's collective asses.




Fixed for dramatic clarity.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Carolina (Game #49) [message #402536 is a reply to message #402532 ]
Sat, 19 January 2008 15:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm saddened at this loss and I feel that the team has lost focus and control of their downward spiral.

Welp...hopefully next game. Oh and those that think this hockeytown will abandon their team by not going to games, ain't gonna happen.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Carolina (Game #49) [message #402541 is a reply to message #402529 ]
Sat, 19 January 2008 15:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MyBestGuess wrote on Sat, 19 January 2008 15:08

Regulator wrote on Sat, 19 January 2008 12:42

halfafrog wrote on Sat, 19 January 2008 10:12

Like I said in the Pre-Game LA thread this is a very dangerous time for the Oilers. Playing the worst team in the league (LA) and then a road trip against the weakest division in the league (SE). Traditionally this team has bee completely unable to beat the worst teams (LA, Washington) and this road trip is confirming it. Carolina is a crappy team too now. About as lousy as us at least any playing no team stronger than Atlanta 8 times a year. And that entire southeast division is lead by Atlanta (which was off to a what 1-10-0 start?).

Its an utterly frustrating to see this team choke again and again vs the worst teams. The year of their run they lost to the worst team in the conference with 2 games left, St Louis and had to rely on Vancouver to self destruct as they had games in hand. And thank God they obliged us.

This team has the killer instinct of a fish out of water, flopping around like they have no business playing professional hockey. Mr Staios went backwards umpteen times and caused a half dozen turnovers in the first two periods. They were beaten to the puck constantly in their own ends. Looked very tired and I was thinking oh oh either they hang on or the third gets ugly.

What is more frustrating is to see a riddled Colorado team (with no Smyth, Stastny or Sakic) sweep through this same division last week and WIN every beat every freaken team. INJURIES are NO exccuse.


Yup I think you hit the nail of the head there. So frustrating to me to watch teams with less talent / injuries than the Oilers play so much better. Clear illustrations are Columbus, Phoenix and Colorado last week. It's mind boggling to me how those teams are so much tougher to play against, and so much more solid in every facet. Watching Phoenix and Columbus especially shows you what a well coached team with an effective system really is, regardless of the players you have. Sadly, we are team with all the skill in the world, some great young players, 2 forward superstars, 3 top 4 dmen in any team, and we still continue to struggle every week to show any sort of consistency. Only with a coaching change will we see this consistency.


Absolutely zero question that we're not 'there' yet as a team and perhaps as an organization.

Still a hell of a lot better than last season overall with some of the promising youngsters and some of the traded players working out (Pitkanen).

As far as a realistic playoff chance though...
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o211/JohnMatthews_photos/FatLadySings.jpg


Absolutely better than last season, although most of us knew that this was going to be the case by default. Waaaaaay more entertaining play this year - when they've played well. The down side of this is that it's hard to stomach the inconsistency and the crappy play that comes with it.

The future looks brighter for sure than it did last year. The thing is, this team has been looking to the future for years now, and save for the aberration of the planets aligning for the cup run....there hasn't been a lot of hope for the here and now. Fans are absolutely ravenous for short-term results, not better prospects for next year, which almost always fail to materialize.

I absolutely understand the frustration.

If the GM thinks that he has provided the assets to build a competitive playoff-type team....but is underwhelmed by the product on the ice, the time-honoured solution is to look for change at the coaching position. My opinion is that the GM thinks he needs some more pieces, and that his team is doing about as well as expected.

The window of opportunity to change head coaches and expect results pertaining to this year has passed. I don't expect any changes until the offseason....and I fully expect MacT to be out of the picture by training camp of next season.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Carolina (Game #49) [message #402547 is a reply to message #402541 ]
Sat, 19 January 2008 16:31 Go to previous message
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K.McC#24 wrote on Sat, 19 January 2008 15:30

My opinion is that the GM thinks he needs some more pieces, and that his team is doing about as well as expected.



My take is they're blaming injuries. I don't think that's just lip service, I think Lowe figures the pieces are in place, or at least are potentially. My own sense is that, even 100% healthy, this isn't a playoff team, much less a contender. Hope I'm wrong.



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