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McDavid signs $100M contract - 8 years - $12.5 Million per year


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Best player in the league, and we have him for at least 9 more years.

I'll take it.



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vsove wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:14

Best player in the league, and we have him for at least 9 more years.

I'll take it.

Not to mention that the amount isn't as high as some had feared it would be. Now to see what Drai winds up signing for.



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I love the deal too. As vsove said, he's best player in the league. Worth every penny in my mind.


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Hmmmm...this is pretty darn close to what I've been thinking all along:

Adam wrote on Tue, 21 June 2016 15:10


McDavid is going to get a ginormous contract for his second deal. If he were to go to RFA, someone would offer him 7 years at the max dollars. Knowing that, the Oilers need to start winning and make him believe he wants to be here. It's the only way he signs an extension for anything less than the absolute top dollar.

I think even then, we can expect his second deal will be in the neighbourhood of $12MM/season. Maybe he's a numbers guy like Crosby and it'll be $97MM for eight years.



Off by $375,000/year with my prediction of over a year ago.

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Adam wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:18

Hmmmm...this is pretty darn close to what I've been thinking all along:

Adam wrote on Tue, 21 June 2016 15:10


McDavid is going to get a ginormous contract for his second deal. If he were to go to RFA, someone would offer him 7 years at the max dollars. Knowing that, the Oilers need to start winning and make him believe he wants to be here. It's the only way he signs an extension for anything less than the absolute top dollar.

I think even then, we can expect his second deal will be in the neighbourhood of $12MM/season. Maybe he's a numbers guy like Crosby and it'll be $97MM for eight years.



Off by $375,000/year with my prediction of over a year ago.

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I'm excited that the number is lower than initially anticipated but kind of sucks that the best news of the off-season was something that was expected anyway.

I hope this brings down Drai's ridiculous ask and Chia can start making a few more tweaks to the team.

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Adam wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:18

Hmmmm...this is pretty darn close to what I've been thinking all along:

Adam wrote on Tue, 21 June 2016 15:10


McDavid is going to get a ginormous contract for his second deal. If he were to go to RFA, someone would offer him 7 years at the max dollars. Knowing that, the Oilers need to start winning and make him believe he wants to be here. It's the only way he signs an extension for anything less than the absolute top dollar.

I think even then, we can expect his second deal will be in the neighbourhood of $12MM/season. Maybe he's a numbers guy like Crosby and it'll be $97MM for eight years.



Off by $375,000/year with my prediction of over a year ago.

#selfcongratulations


I predicted exact $12.5M for McDavid and $7.5M for Draisatl. Think I might be off on Leon but I will also self congratulate for being right with McDavid.



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Wonderful outcome. He left a lot on the table.


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Not too shabby. Sign up Drai for 7-7.5 and we have both at 20 or under for a long time.


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Just a fantastic deal for us (not him) but us as fans and the team - despite the crop of boob tube management executives that are part of the org..

Thank you Connor.

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smyth260 wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:25

Wonderful outcome. He left a lot on the table.



left good 20 million over 8 years!



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WhoreableGuy wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:25

I'm excited that the number is lower than initially anticipated but kind of sucks that the best news of the off-season was something that was expected anyway.

I hope this brings down Drai's ridiculous ask and Chia can start making a few more tweaks to the team.

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Ummm...Drai's reputed ask.

There's been no confirmation from anyone involved as to what he's actually asked for. And it's a contract negotiation, so I expect their side to start high and focus on the fact that he was top ten in the league in scoring in both regular season and playoffs this year.

I really dislike the anger in the last week from people (moreso on twitter than here) including David Staples, about the asks from the Oilers top players. Their agents are hired to get them contracts that reflect their value. It isn't always going to be an easy negotiation, and it's okay for them to try for as much as they can get.




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Adam wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:18

Hmmmm...this is pretty darn close to what I've been thinking all along:

Adam wrote on Tue, 21 June 2016 15:10


McDavid is going to get a ginormous contract for his second deal. If he were to go to RFA, someone would offer him 7 years at the max dollars. Knowing that, the Oilers need to start winning and make him believe he wants to be here. It's the only way he signs an extension for anything less than the absolute top dollar.

I think even then, we can expect his second deal will be in the neighbourhood of $12MM/season. Maybe he's a numbers guy like Crosby and it'll be $97MM for eight years.



Off by $375,000/year with my prediction of over a year ago.

#selfcongratulations


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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:20


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This post means so much to me. *single tear*



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So, the 0.75M shave vs the widely reported 13.25 adds ~3.5M worth of player that can be acquired at the trade deadline. So, it's not insignificant.


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Quote:

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The Oilers scored 217 goals during 5v5 & 5v4 play. McDavid was on the ice for 114 of those.
That's 52.5%. He's probably underpaid at $20MM/yr



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https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/882674157439275008

McKenzie saying that $13.25 was the original deal but McDavid was the one who felt it was too high.



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bigEfromGP wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:56

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/882674157439275008

McKenzie saying that $13.25 was the original deal but McDavid was the one who felt it was too high.

This seems like spin to me. I know it's a great story, but I have my doubts.



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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:28

Not too shabby. Sign up Drai for 7-7.5 and we have both at 20 or under for a long time.


Could have gone a lot differently, hard to temper the demands but the Oilers could only sell based on team-building ability and Cup opportunities, I think kudos to a degree for both sides in this.

Eyes on Draisaitl deal now, I was hoping for 18 for the pair at season's end, but if they're at 19.5 or 20 AAV for both, that's doable. I'm thinking paying Drai $7 mil to $7.5 per for 1RW moreso than $7 to 7.5 for #2C.

Boils down to the fact that you'd rather 'overpay' (if that term even applies) for your best 2 players than overpay a similar amount for 2 middling players. I just don't see how they can go higher than $7.5 given comparables for Draisaitl and the fact that they can't give elite 1C money (anywhere else in the league) to 1RW or 2C player for his second contract.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:57

bigEfromGP wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:56

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/882674157439275008

McKenzie saying that $13.25 was the original deal but McDavid was the one who felt it was too high.

This seems like spin to me. I know it's a great story, but I have my doubts.

It's a CP2 for sure.

Pretty good deal that will look fantastic in 4 years from now. Every penny under $15M left on the table is a win in my books.



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I thought 10.5 would've been cup/cap friendly. This is still an anchor.


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For a guy that held all the power in negotiations, McDavid surely left some money on the table. Good deal for the Oilers. It's obvious winning is McDavid's #1 priority. Let's get Leon signed for 7.5M or less and we're not looking to bad. icon_thumbsup


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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:57

bigEfromGP wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:56

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/882674157439275008

McKenzie saying that $13.25 was the original deal but McDavid was the one who felt it was too high.

This seems like spin to me. I know it's a great story, but I have my doubts.


Yeah, hard spin. This not even a discount.



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JPro wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:00

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:57

bigEfromGP wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:56

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/882674157439275008

McKenzie saying that $13.25 was the original deal but McDavid was the one who felt it was too high.

This seems like spin to me. I know it's a great story, but I have my doubts.

It's a CP2 for sure.

Pretty good deal that will look fantastic in 4 years from now. Every penny under $15M left on the table is a win in my books.


Let the trolling of Toronto & the Mathews extension next summer begin. 15M x 8 years? Sounds about right. icon_biggrin



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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:57

bigEfromGP wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:56

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/882674157439275008

McKenzie saying that $13.25 was the original deal but McDavid was the one who felt it was too high.

This seems like spin to me. I know it's a great story, but I have my doubts.


No matter how you look at it, if McDavid waited until next summer, he could have teams lining up to give him a 20% cap deal offer sheet with flat money for 8 years. Screw 4 1st picks, you are waiting a decade + for a guy like McDavid to come along, and the lottery makes it totally unpredictable if you can get the #1 pick when one does come again.

He's giving something up, and I'm sure it's not lost on him how the Pens struggled for over half a decade after Malkin and Crosby's 2nd deals and finally be able to afford depth for playoffs after the cap went up enough and they took discount deals. Chicago is about to take a huge step back next year without Hossa and their C Kruger that took 20-30% offensive zone faceoffs while still dominating possession allowing Kane to get 75% offensive starts and Toews >50%. We also saw the Kings implode now.

Think this deal strikes a good balance between McDavid getting a payday he deserves, tops in the league by a good margin, and still giving a chance for the team to be competative for the majority of his deal IF management plays their cards right.

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Magnum wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 14:02

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:57

bigEfromGP wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:56

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/882674157439275008

McKenzie saying that $13.25 was the original deal but McDavid was the one who felt it was too high.

This seems like spin to me. I know it's a great story, but I have my doubts.


Yeah, hard spin. This not even a discount.


Max salary this year is $15MM/season (20% of the cap). If McDavid had played out his last year and went to free agency, his agent could likely have gotten him the max dollars for any length of time - from 1 to 7 years.

Thus, anything under that is a discount. McDavid is leaving at minimum $2.5MM per season on the table for the length of his deal.

Would I have loved to see him leave more on the table? Of course. He's already earned around $7MM playing hockey and he's now going to make more in each year than most of us posters have made in our lives, and every dollar less he took could have been used to make sure the team was more competitive around him. But he and his agent know his market value, and they've acted accordingly.

And honestly, I don't trust our management to spend the extra money wisely, so why should McDavid and his representatives? They've given some back to them, but how much discount should he take when they're going to spend it on defensive defencemen who can't pass...



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My favourite part of the presser was the giant orange afro in the front row. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...




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HamBlaster wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:38

My favourite part of the presser was the giant orange afro in the front row. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...




Honestly, how long before Katz the Younger is given an executive position in the organization? Definitely before the end of McDavid's contract.



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HamBlaster wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:38

My favourite part of the presser was the giant orange afro in the front row. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...




Honestly, how long before Katz the Younger is given an executive position in the organization? Definitely before the end of McDavid's contract.


Bet he will run things better than his dad did.



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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 14:04

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:57

bigEfromGP wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:56

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/882674157439275008

McKenzie saying that $13.25 was the original deal but McDavid was the one who felt it was too high.

This seems like spin to me. I know it's a great story, but I have my doubts.


No matter how you look at it, if McDavid waited until next summer, he could have teams lining up to give him a 20% cap deal offer sheet with flat money for 8 years. Screw 4 1st picks, you are waiting a decade + for a guy like McDavid to come along, and the lottery makes it totally unpredictable if you can get the #1 pick when one does come again.

He's giving something up, and I'm sure it's not lost on him how the Pens struggled for over half a decade after Malkin and Crosby's 2nd deals and finally be able to afford depth for playoffs after the cap went up enough and they took discount deals. Chicago is about to take a huge step back next year without Hossa and their C Kruger that took 20-30% offensive zone faceoffs while still dominating possession allowing Kane to get 75% offensive starts and Toews >50%. We also saw the Kings implode now.

Think this deal strikes a good balance between McDavid getting a payday he deserves, tops in the league by a good margin, and still giving a chance for the team to be competative for the majority of his deal IF management plays their cards right.

To be clear, in this case I'm not commenting on the actual deal. I'm commenting on the idea that McDavid was uncomfortable making so much and asked to be paid less.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 14:52

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 14:27

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That's was disappointed McDavid after the lottery. His expression proved he would get out of Edmonton at his first opportunity and likely sign with the Leafs.



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jds308 wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 14:01

For a guy that held all the power in negotiations, McDavid surely left some money on the table. Good deal for the Oilers. It's obvious winning is McDavid's #1 priority. Let's get Leon signed for 7.5M or less and we're not looking to bad. icon_thumbsup


Two hours ago everyone was saying that $13.25 was winning prohibitive. Now at $750,000 less, it's a fantastic deal?!

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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 14:54

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 14:52

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 14:27

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That's was disappointed McDavid after the lottery. His expression proved he would get out of Edmonton at his first opportunity and likely sign with the Leafs.

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Magnum wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 14:54

jds308 wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 14:01

For a guy that held all the power in negotiations, McDavid surely left some money on the table. Good deal for the Oilers. It's obvious winning is McDavid's #1 priority. Let's get Leon signed for 7.5M or less and we're not looking to bad. icon_thumbsup


Two hours ago everyone was saying that $13.25 was winning prohibitive. Now at $750,000 less, it's a fantastic deal?!

Oilers' management has played everyone like a fiddle.



Drai's contract is the one that can kill us IMO. McDavid, you just hope it's around what OV and Crosby took back in the day in terms of % of cap. It was less than either of those guys too, and OV's was signed before the cap only went up 0.1M due to the market crash.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:57

bigEfromGP wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:56

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/882674157439275008

McKenzie saying that $13.25 was the original deal but McDavid was the one who felt it was too high.

This seems like spin to me. I know it's a great story, but I have my doubts.


Doesn't even matter. They can spin it how they want. Maybe the high number was leaked to get people accepting it and then they came on lower.

All that matters to me is 8 years. That it is below market value and he left money on the table is just a sweet, sweet bonus. Maybe sets the example for other teammates, who know.

But we have the best player in the world happy and signed for a decade. I'm giddy.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 14:52

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 14:04

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:57

bigEfromGP wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:56

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/882674157439275008

McKenzie saying that $13.25 was the original deal but McDavid was the one who felt it was too high.

This seems like spin to me. I know it's a great story, but I have my doubts.


No matter how you look at it, if McDavid waited until next summer, he could have teams lining up to give him a 20% cap deal offer sheet with flat money for 8 years. Screw 4 1st picks, you are waiting a decade + for a guy like McDavid to come along, and the lottery makes it totally unpredictable if you can get the #1 pick when one does come again.

He's giving something up, and I'm sure it's not lost on him how the Pens struggled for over half a decade after Malkin and Crosby's 2nd deals and finally be able to afford depth for playoffs after the cap went up enough and they took discount deals. Chicago is about to take a huge step back next year without Hossa and their C Kruger that took 20-30% offensive zone faceoffs while still dominating possession allowing Kane to get 75% offensive starts and Toews >50%. We also saw the Kings implode now.

Think this deal strikes a good balance between McDavid getting a payday he deserves, tops in the league by a good margin, and still giving a chance for the team to be competative for the majority of his deal IF management plays their cards right.

To be clear, in this case I'm not commenting on the actual deal. I'm commenting on the idea that McDavid was uncomfortable making so much and asked to be paid less.


Depends if you think McDavid was in the driver seat or not. If you believe Chia was willing to do what McDavid felt was best, what reason is there for McDavid to take less than max if it's not because he doesn't want to handcuff the team?

I'm sure it wasn't just in the last week that he decided 13.25M was not right. I honestly wonder where this 13.25M came from.



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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 16:05

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 14:52

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 14:04

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:57

bigEfromGP wrote on Wed, 05 July 2017 13:56

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/882674157439275008

McKenzie saying that $13.25 was the original deal but McDavid was the one who felt it was too high.

This seems like spin to me. I know it's a great story, but I have my doubts.


No matter how you look at it, if McDavid waited until next summer, he could have teams lining up to give him a 20% cap deal offer sheet with flat money for 8 years. Screw 4 1st picks, you are waiting a decade + for a guy like McDavid to come along, and the lottery makes it totally unpredictable if you can get the #1 pick when one does come again.

He's giving something up, and I'm sure it's not lost on him how the Pens struggled for over half a decade after Malkin and Crosby's 2nd deals and finally be able to afford depth for playoffs after the cap went up enough and they took discount deals. Chicago is about to take a huge step back next year without Hossa and their C Kruger that took 20-30% offensive zone faceoffs while still dominating possession allowing Kane to get 75% offensive starts and Toews >50%. We also saw the Kings implode now.

Think this deal strikes a good balance between McDavid getting a payday he deserves, tops in the league by a good margin, and still giving a chance for the team to be competative for the majority of his deal IF management plays their cards right.

To be clear, in this case I'm not commenting on the actual deal. I'm commenting on the idea that McDavid was uncomfortable making so much and asked to be paid less.


Depends if you think McDavid was in the driver seat or not. If you believe Chia was willing to do what McDavid felt was best, what reason is there for McDavid to take less than max if it's not because he doesn't want to handcuff the team?

That is immaterial to the narrative I'm discussing. It sounds like the media is reporting the two sides agreed to "X" dollars and then McDavid said he was uncomfortable with that number and took less. I find that scenario (CP2) to be highly unlikely and probably a public relations manipulation.



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