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 Re: Pregame: N.Y. Rangers @ Edmonton (Game #69) [message #732738 is a reply to message #732735 ]
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The Oilers have done a really good job of climbing into sixth in the wild card race. A win tonight (with a little help) could see them rocket up to 5th.


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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 08:20

The Oilers have done a really good job of climbing into sixth in the wild card race. A win tonight (with a little help) could see them rocket up to 5th.

Wha, wha, wha, wha, whatcha say?!!? Jaaaaason Deruuulo.

Absolutely a game they should win... so they’ll likely have a poor performance till the final 5.



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3.Toby's biological clock never switched from daylight savings time... now he's back on Toby time! ... its goal time baby! 4 / 15%
4.Ranger goalie pulled, he goes in alone on empty net .. hits post.. 4 / 15%
5.Last time I'm doing this stupid poll.. 3 / 11%
6.Snipe Bomb, top shelf, water bottle flies skyward... 2 / 7%
7.Toby shoots, Ranger D deflects puck top shelf.. Lundqvist loses his s**t, slams stick in utter disgust, shouts .."Toby Freaking Reider.. F me.. that's fkn embarrassing" ... storms to bench.. down tunnel.. announces retirement.. 7 / 26%

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 Re: Pregame: N.Y. Rangers @ Edmonton (Game #69) [message #732747 is a reply to message #732746 ]
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I like option 7, but the goal gets credited to Lucic's backside 2 hours after the game.


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 Re: Pregame: N.Y. Rangers @ Edmonton (Game #69) [message #732748 is a reply to message #732735 ]
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Meanwhile stubhub tickets are down as low as 22 USD for tonight, 18 for Wednesday against Jersey. The market is setting itself.


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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 11:55

Meanwhile stubhub tickets are down as low as 22 USD for tonight, 18 for Wednesday against Jersey. The market is setting itself.


Maybe time to bring the kids to a game!



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Now we are for real getting into must win territory. This must win is 11 musts out of 10.


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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 10:47

I like option 7, but the goal gets credited to Lucic's backside 2 hours after the game.


That'll be on the next poll... because you know there'll be another!



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 Re: Pregame: N.Y. Rangers @ Edmonton (Game #69) [message #732753 is a reply to message #732748 ]
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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 11:55

Meanwhile stubhub tickets are down as low as 22 USD for tonight, 18 for Wednesday against Jersey. The market is setting itself.


Stupid me bought tickets to this one when they went on sale in the fall. I wish I hadn't. Lesson learned.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 11:55

Meanwhile stubhub tickets are down as low as 22 USD for tonight, 18 for Wednesday against Jersey. The market is setting itself.


mmmmm, those 17k per seat Loge season tickets must be looking so tempting for people now.



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 Re: Pregame: N.Y. Rangers @ Edmonton (Game #69) [message #732755 is a reply to message #732738 ]
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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 08:20

The Oilers have done a really good job of climbing into sixth in the wild card race. A win tonight (with a little help) could see them rocket up to 5th.


That may be so, but is it really fair of you to compare where the Oilers are with where a team, like, say, Arizona is? Look at all the advantages the Coyotes have!

- The league LOOOOOOVES the Coyotes and is always trying to do nice things for them.
- They have an all-star like Marian Hossa on their team, and they've had some pretty amazing alumni through their in recent years like Pronger and Datsyuk. Yeah, they were at the tail-end of their careers, but still - they brought so many intangibles to that team. It would have been hard for their young players not to glean something having them on the roster.
- The history of that franchise is storied. Who can look up at the banners waving from the ceiling of Gila River Arena and see #19 waiving there and not feel inspired?
- The team isn't constrained at all by the salary cap. They're $7MM under the cap even after factoring Marian Hossa in. If the Oilers had that kind of cap space, just imagine what we could do with it?! We could add another Lucic!!!
- They aren't burdened with the expectations that come with A) getting four of 6 first overall picks and B) making the playoffs and winning a single round two years ago. Their players can just play the game without living with those ghosts.

Really, all things considered, it's amazing we're even within 10 points of Arizona.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 12:16

Now we are for real getting into must win territory. This must win is 11 musts out of 10.


I bet they’d make it in if they won 8!



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Magnum wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 13:56

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 12:16

Now we are for real getting into must win territory. This must win is 11 musts out of 10.


I bet they’d make it in if they won 8!

Oh they'd have to win more than 8 in a row.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 14:03

Magnum wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 13:56

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 12:16

Now we are for real getting into must win territory. This must win is 11 musts out of 10.


I bet they’d make it in if they won 8!

Oh they'd have to win more than 8 in a row.


Getting 9 games over .500 the rest of the way looks to be the minimum to make it. Unfortunately, can't be done without atleast 9 wins.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 14:09

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 14:03

Magnum wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 13:56

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 12:16

Now we are for real getting into must win territory. This must win is 11 musts out of 10.


I bet they’d make it in if they won 8!

Oh they'd have to win more than 8 in a row.


Getting 9 games over .500 the rest of the way looks to be the minimum to make it. Unfortunately, can't be done without atleast 9 wins.


Crappy. Is there one of those fancy payoff chances websites around these days?



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Magnum wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 14:11

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 14:09

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 14:03

Magnum wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 13:56

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 12:16

Now we are for real getting into must win territory. This must win is 11 musts out of 10.


I bet they’d make it in if they won 8!

Oh they'd have to win more than 8 in a row.


Getting 9 games over .500 the rest of the way looks to be the minimum to make it. Unfortunately, can't be done without atleast 9 wins.


Crappy. Is there one of those fancy payoff chances websites around these days?


Sportsclubstats has still been the one I've gone to. Not sure if there is anything better out there:

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/Western/Pacific/Edmonton2 .html




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 Re: Pregame: N.Y. Rangers @ Edmonton (Game #69) [message #732767 is a reply to message #732762 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 14:14

Magnum wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 14:11

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 14:09

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 14:03

Magnum wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 13:56

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 12:16

Now we are for real getting into must win territory. This must win is 11 musts out of 10.


I bet they’d make it in if they won 8!

Oh they'd have to win more than 8 in a row.


Getting 9 games over .500 the rest of the way looks to be the minimum to make it. Unfortunately, can't be done without atleast 9 wins.


Crappy. Is there one of those fancy payoff chances websites around these days?


Sportsclubstats has still been the one I've gone to. Not sure if there is anything better out there:

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/Western/Pacific/Edmonton2 .html




So even at 11-3, the Oilers aren't even 50% to make it. Those odds are...not good.



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Adam wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 13:36

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 08:20

The Oilers have done a really good job of climbing into sixth in the wild card race. A win tonight (with a little help) could see them rocket up to 5th.


That may be so, but is it really fair of you to compare where the Oilers are with where a team, like, say, Arizona is? Look at all the advantages the Coyotes have!

- The league LOOOOOOVES the Coyotes and is always trying to do nice things for them.
- They have an all-star like Marian Hossa on their team, and they've had some pretty amazing alumni through their in recent years like Pronger and Datsyuk. Yeah, they were at the tail-end of their careers, but still - they brought so many intangibles to that team. It would have been hard for their young players not to glean something having them on the roster.
- The history of that franchise is storied. Who can look up at the banners waving from the ceiling of Gila River Arena and see #19 waiving there and not feel inspired?
- The team isn't constrained at all by the salary cap. They're $7MM under the cap even after factoring Marian Hossa in. If the Oilers had that kind of cap space, just imagine what we could do with it?! We could add another Lucic!!!
- They aren't burdened with the expectations that come with A) getting four of 6 first overall picks and B) making the playoffs and winning a single round two years ago. Their players can just play the game without living with those ghosts.

Really, all things considered, it's amazing we're even within 10 points of Arizona.


Also, they've gained so much room of cap space because of all the injuries they had this year! They were an ambulance unit, where I the Oilers were having to trade for Brendan Manning and then were forced to send him to the AHL to create some space again.



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We could get an epic league wide tank?


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Magnum wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 15:59

We could get an epic league wide tank?

No no. Most teams in the league want and try to win. It's only the Oilers who are focused on market manipulation and real estate empires.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 11:55

Meanwhile stubhub tickets are down as low as 22 USD for tonight, 18 for Wednesday against Jersey. The market is setting itself.

Maybe I can trade some Oil King tickets straight across now!

Club for Club seating straight up?



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Magnum wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 15:59

We could get an epic league wide tank?


The biggest problem with that is that there's so much overlap this time of year in schedules. Take the Coyotes for example:

They play the Ducks, the Blackhawks, the Wild, the Avalanche, the Blues, and the Oilers down the stretch. Ignoring the Oilers games, that's a lot of opportunities for 3-point games, and at least one of their rivals has to get a point in each of those nights.

There's virtually no chance if the Oilers win less than 10 games, and even at 10 wins they're more likely out than they are in.

At this point, it's best not even to hope for the playoffs. Save yourself the disappointment. #cynicism



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Koskinen back in for tonight's battle with the Rangers, Lucic skated on his own but will not dress tonight (Hitch says he's possibly back for Wednesday).

https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/morning-skate-report-oilers- vs-rangers/c-305667338?tid=282301100




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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 13:07

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 11:55

Meanwhile stubhub tickets are down as low as 22 USD for tonight, 18 for Wednesday against Jersey. The market is setting itself.


mmmmm, those 17k per seat Loge season tickets must be looking so tempting for people now.


...$18 bucks to watch New Jersey and $45 for parking? Guess having your SUV stare at the bumper of a Toyota for 4 hours has got to be worth something .




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Need to win the next 3 against complete jobbers, split the 2 road games in St Louis/Vegas, win the rest of the games after that this month, and hope SJ/Calgary are too busy preparing for the playoffs to care about the final 2 games.


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NetBOG wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 17:29

Need to win the next 3 against complete jobbers, split the 2 road games in St Louis/Vegas, win the rest of the games after that this month, and hope SJ/Calgary are too busy preparing for the playoffs to care about the final 2 games.

So... you’re telling me there’s a chance!



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Is the ORPP dream still alive? Gotta think we need a real heater here to have a chance... hmm.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 11:55

Meanwhile stubhub tickets are down as low as 22 USD for tonight, 18 for Wednesday against Jersey. The market is setting itself.


Stubhub is BS because its $US and large fees will be added.

Lowest i saw on Ticketmaster resale were $25 CDN with all taxes and fees included.



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GabbyDugan wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 16:24

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 13:07

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 11 March 2019 11:55

Meanwhile stubhub tickets are down as low as 22 USD for tonight, 18 for Wednesday against Jersey. The market is setting itself.


mmmmm, those 17k per seat Loge season tickets must be looking so tempting for people now.


...$18 bucks to watch New Jersey and $45 for parking? Guess having your SUV stare at the bumper of a Toyota for 4 hours has got to be worth something .



Park in the City Centre lot with the double Pedway to the mall. Only $7 event parking. And you’re within easy walking distance. Really close if you go outside.



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